Nasakh - Sharia - Fiqh

Alaikoam salam of course brother you are intitled to your opinion.

I belong to no cult unless you are calling Islam a cult.

A hundred years ago they use to think lead was a medicine now we understand it is a poison.

My point in a nut shell is we will get further with positive encouragements Like access to education so people can support them/ourselves with grace and dignity for everyone concerned.

We will get further by offering access to counseling where people may learn the skills of being a good partner/husband wife/person with agencies set up to deal with particular issues like family violence, parenting issues, communications and conflict resolution issues.

We will get further vy calling all the share holders sort out into groups to the share holders table to consult on what infra structures and supports we need in the community as well as affordable access to proffessionals for consulting on our issues such as medical problems, housing problems, financial problems.

Using violence as punishment does nothing but drive the problem under ground, under the surface and it purculates likes a boil on the skin ready to break at any time but if medication, treatments such as education, counseling and consultation are employed drawing the person into the light and at a point they will ask for help is the first step to real world peace brother.

The time has come for a change whether you accept it or not some of the laws are like lead a poison rather than a remedy.  This of course is my opinion.

Again I do not belong to a cult I very much belong to the body and being of Islam.

I am of course still learning what Islam means to me and how I want to express my Islam ie my submission to the will of Allah.

You made your points and points well taken however we all have the freedom to believe as we will including you.

The Islam I believe in does not use violence as punishment but as I said Education, Counseling and Consultation as elements of true justice inshallah may it be so.

Salam

Your Sister in Faith

Anne Marie Elderkin Habibi

The name of the Islam I belong to is El Hayat Islam

We have a higer station than the beasts in the field as as we both know they can be tamed and so can we but it will take work with love and forgiveness to do so.  Inshallah a great sorting out into groups to see what we have done wrong and what we have done right and then a further sorting into groups to learn the skills we need to be the best person we can be and each of our striving in this Inter Faith Call to an Education, Counseling and Consultation Jihad is hope and a bright light for all.

There is hope and we are that hope.

You live in the United States so you come under the human rights act do you not?

Alaikoam Salam

A very thoughtful response.

I guess the issue is how we understand Islam and I guess my understanding is a little bit to the future and may beyond this time and place I still believe as I do.

Indeed Mohammed PBUH brought a great book and hadeath however it is in my opinion not the last book as in my opinion Allah reveals in revealations many things to us everyday thus making it a living revealation without end.

Nor in my opinion was He PBUH the last Messenger for in my opinion I believe we are all Messengers and that is why excellence in Education, Counseling and Consultation are so important so that we all may bring a good Message to the world and let our lives be a Message as well.

We are the Messiah, the Prophets, the Manifestations of God and People of Spirit a Living Messiah in the Multitudes not one of us but all of us. We are all Messengers of God and we are all equally responsible according to our ability to care for each other and the world.

My opinion of course.

Salam

Anne Marie Elderkin Habibi

amah wrote: Assalaamualaikum Execution of the criminal is not about mercy or anger, it is about Justice. Well said brother Mockba.   Sister Anne, Iam really surprised at your interpretation of Islam. Will you kindly tell me on what basis you believe in all of this: "Nor in my opinion was He PBUH the last Messenger" "my understanding is a little bit to the future" "not the last book (quran)" "We are all Messengers of God" Also do you believe in the ayahs of Quran and in the hadith which talk about punishments? Do you believe in Hell??? Thank You. Wassalaam.

I believe those ayahs were brought at a particular time in history for a particular group of people and now in todays world we need preventive laws rather than punishment because underneath the bad behavior is usually pycological suffering or neglect from childhood and young adulthood that causes the behavior to arise.  We should give every person the chance to be their best not crush them when they fall.

I believe hell can be found in this life if we do bad things or if others do bad things or the environment does bad things maybe there is a hell in the after life I am not really sure of that but what I am sure of is that the are many rooms in the House of Allah and He will prepare one for each of us.

Salam

Anne Marie