Why kiss meteors????

 Yes, why kiss the cross? That cross being an enemy of Jesus  and an instrument to punish Jesus should not be carried or kissed. At least that stone in Ka'abah is not a symbol of anything bad. The cross is definitely a bad sign. Nobody should go near it. Can Jason answer the problem of the cross, being kissed and carried around by the christians. Is it something to loved???

Some enemies of the christians have taught them to love the cross. Sorry for my statement to all christian friends except Jasonch.

Jasonchristian wrote: If Muslims love their Allah and their prophet so much, why do they engage in rock worship?  Aren't Muslims aware that pre-Islamic worship on the Arabian Penninsula incuded the shamanistic practices of rock worship, rock throwing, etc.  You claim to be monotheists, yet elevate a meteorite to the level of a "god" and worship it in your Kaa'ba.  It is simply a left over practice of paganism.

Who told you that Muslims worship a rock?

Muslims worship only the Lord Almighty (the God of Abraham). That is all.

BMZ

I'm so ashamed of my muslim brothers & sisters, to go down to insulting.  If someone insults you, do you insult them back?  No.  Remember our Prophet (PBUH) never never made fun of anybody of a differnt relgion.

How do you draw people to your religion if you are only to bite back?  Remember patience & tolerance brother & sisters of Islam!!!  If non-muslims have questions answer them to the best of your ability.  And be it so that they have ill intentions then let them be.  Why should you go down to that level.  Remember this relgion is of respect as well.  We are ALL the slaves of Allah no matter what religion & we're all equal.  If someone throws sticks & stones don't throw it back.  Just be patient & tolerant & God will judge.

I'm so tired of all these insults over the internet from both sides of the fence!!  Is there any result out of it but more hate??  And to be muslim, then more of a reason to be patient & tolerant of others.  We should educate others in a peaceful way.

saqeen wrote: I'm so ashamed of my muslim brothers & sisters, to go down to insulting.  If someone insults you, do you insult them back?  No.  Remember our Prophet (PBUH) never never made fun of anybody of a differnt relgion.

Thank you for your comments and welcome to the forum. Due to the nature of the forum, sometimes people will loose patience. I do think you are a bit harsh as I do not find anything that would constitute "insulting". Furthermore, JasonChristian is not just someone from another faith, but somenone who has shown a pattern of "baiting" and intentional slander without the desire or objective to learn or ask legitimate and reasonable questions. The internet presents with people that attempt to use forums simply to try and cast doubt on the weak minded concerning Islam, and they do so by spamming anti-Islamic trash, these people could have used the time to pause and read legitimate sites one Islam, but they chose to pass these sites due to their convictions and find rhetorical trash as a means to cast slander on this noble faith.

I did not see anyone make fun of his religion, on the contrary, I found him spamming the forum with polemical garbage.

How do you draw people to your religion if you are only to bite back?  Remember patience & tolerance brother & sisters of Islam!!!  If non-muslims have questions answer them to the best of your ability.  And be it so that they have ill intentions then let them be.

There are many who have no intention to want to be drawn, they simply come here to make trouble, and incredibly insulting remarks to prod Muslims into emotionalism, to make jest, and to try and cause doubt on those who have come here to read and learn. I have been an active moderator since my conversion (only about a year here) and have been with some forums that were extremely ruff. Trust me when I tell you, that if you stop and take every character seriuous or try and see every troll that comes through a forum as a potential convert, you will

1) waste a lot of your time

2) give them fuel to cast more insults.

JasonChristian did not ask any "real question", and his choice of material is evident of his "non-serious" agenda.

If you wish to waste your time with every JasonChristian that moves through the forum, then it is your choice, but I have no religous obligation to do so after the person has presented themsleves as dubious.

I think Whisper, Maryah, Sonya, and Duende are our master "troll" sniffers, and Whisper is pretty much right on that the best policy should be to simply ignore them and not qualify their participation.

Why should you go down to that level.  Remember this relgion is of respect as well.  We are ALL the slaves of Allah no matter what religion & we're all equal.  If someone throws sticks & stones don't throw it back.  Just be patient & tolerant & God will judge.

I agree, but this would be too simplistic to use in a discussion forum as a sole "axiom" for behavior. Keep in mind that every forum has there "lurkers", many of whom are people who want to investigate Islam and want to see the answers to many of the trashy arguments hulred at our Nobel Faith throughout the net and the media. If someone like JasonChristian comes in here and puts forth a contribution that might appear to be solid to the unknowing, I will take the time to respond, not to convince the dubious person (that would be a waste), but for those who read in the background. Also, I did not find anyone throwing "sticks and stones"at JasonChristian. I think you are being a bit harsh.

I'm so tired of all these insults over the internet from both sides of the fence!!  Is there any result out of it but more hate??  And to be muslim, then more of a reason to be patient & tolerant of others.  We should educate others in a peaceful way.

peacful ways are credible and should be used, but that does not mean that we cast out reason.

There are times that as Muslims, we can defened ourselves.

Assalam Aleikum