Muslim women badly treated.

sandra wrote: aisha wrote: yes we know this happens,but what we are saying is that these people are not true muslims they have got it wrong i beg you to read the quran in english you will not find it suports such wickedness. I have read the quran, twice.  There are also some horrific things said in that also.  I will get the quran and state it on here some of the things that are un human.

Before you do, only state the relevent points for this topic, please and place others elsewhere in its appriorate forums. 

Sandra, no one is saying you are spreading hatred! We all don't want to see women (or anyone for that matter) to get hurt of killed.

Nor are we denying you anything, it is very commendable that you want to very much help these women, as if we here do not! but what we are saying is that its not islamic, it is a cultural thing that has and is mixed up with religion.  

I might I add that you don't know ALL muslim women  even those here on the boards don't know ALL muslim women.

Why do you think honour killings is islamic ? You seem so adement about that.

I can't believe what I am reading. This is a laugh. It's obvious to me that people in here are very naieve. It's on the news here almost everyday about islamic violence. But let's look further than that. We have not just book after book that closed minded people allow to go over their heads, (because their religion teachs them that it is wrong to read such books) but web page after web page that show just how islamic rule is not only violent, but how it covers itself from people like yourselves that do not know the truth. I don't know where you are all from by I bet my bottom dollar that you are not living in an Arab country like Jordan or Iraq before it had it's roof lifted. Or even now, because war seems to have opened the door more so to rape than ever. As for you Quran readers, read it again, but this time with an open mind. I have a quote here that I know will not change your minds, but have a look anyway. You religious people astound me. One thing I have noticed is that you read the Quran, or the Old Testament and decide that that's the right one for you and nothing else matters. Open your minds. It's right out there in the open and I don't care how islamic you think you are, you can't be truly a "This day and age islam follower" if you think it is not violent. Here read this.
"The Quran says many things about many issues. Many verses are intended for specific people, specific events, specific periods of time, etc, and are not intended to be universally applied, nor are they universal declarations. If you want to understand the Quran you�ll have to know not only the context of the verse, but also its application, chronological setting, and "continued validity". Otherwise anyone can quote the Quran out of context to prove their point."
This was taken from http://www.answering-islam.org/Silas/hassaballa_violence1.ht m which happens to tell it as it really is. It is really like this too because we see it on television, on the web, from women that escape their men. You only have to go as far as Melbourne airport here in Australia to see new women finding there way over here every day that have in one way or another escaped their so called men. Have a look here, this is another of many many sites that I can give you on Islamic violence. 
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I give you this advice, get rid of that Islamic male standing over your shoulder being enraged about what this sandra person is saying and type what you really feel. I think she needs a tolt of that hat for speaking what she believes as truth. I also think you should step aside, open your mind and give a little thought to anybody that disagrees with you. You people have tried nailing sandra with comments like "spewing hate" since she started posted as far as I can see and she has only tried to be nice. I am surprised she has lasted this long being tolerant. It shows right here in this forum the behaviour of typical islamic violence and unjust discrimination. Use your "your racist" comments where they are needed by all means, but where they are needed.

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Angel wrote: Sandra, no one is saying you are spreading hatred! We all don't want to see women (or anyone for that matter) to get hurt of killed. Nor are we denying you anything, it is very commendable that you want to very much help these women, as if we here do not! but what we are saying is that its not islamic, it is a cultural thing that has and is mixed up with religion.   I might I add that you don't know ALL muslim women  even those here on the boards don't know ALL muslim women. Why do you think honour killings is islamic ? You seem so adement about that.

yes your correct i dont know all muslim women, but people here keep saying its not the Islamic way that they are mixing or culture with the Islamic religon.  WHY ARE THEY DOING THIS IF THEY ARE ISLAMIC for eg: catholics dont mix culture with there religion, they dont say killing or hurting others is catholic if its not.  It is happeing true fact, even if you dont want to believe they say its Islamic they are saying its the Islamic way, why are they saying it, and why isnt anyone doing anythning about it.  Its not enough just speaking about it, right now another women has been murded only because she is powerless, yet the male wins again. WRONG totally inhuman.