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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ak_m_f Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 February 2006 at 3:21am
Quote your religion is bs anyway and will soon be defeated


Finally showed your true colours and real Intention

Quote i was trying to be respectful


rite. respectful, by posting hate material you are being respectful.

Quote i was trying to be respectful. to bad i ha dto run into someone like you instead of someone who really knows what they are talkin about


Dont blame me, blame your anger.I am not here to respect u if u disrespect my religion.

Quote ya fake *** wanna be muslim

Thats for the God to decide

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Dear manny Brother!

It doesn't matter that whether you are black, or wheatish or reddish or white. Islam does not differentiate between colours creed or sex. You are judged by your deeds and not by colours/caste etc.

Brother your concern is genuine but you must remember that what all you read in the newspaper or media is not the true reflection of what is happening around.

It is clear from your questions that your visual reach is only limited to one side of the story like lot of other Americans see. I don't know what are the sources of your these news clips but certainly sitting in a comfortable chair with listining to music and casually talking on the net won't enable to get the Muslim prespective on the issues.

What you need to do is to listen and then find it all yourselves what is true and what is propaganda.

Regarding the cartoon issues: The individual sensitivites and collective sensitivites of all must be respected. If we started making hue and cry on all the issues will that be appropriate???

We believe that there should be understanding among the religious groups and civilizations and all issues must be settled with dialouge.

But this doesn't mean that we be humilated collectively or be des-respected in such a way. Other issues may be of national level or a regional level and we all need not to be making it a controversy while there will be certain issues which are intolerable as a whole.

You need to engage in respectful dialouge to understand our concerns, dear Manny. Your views need to be reached to us.

Shams Zaman

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Secondly if I say that �In America is the sole problem for the law and order is the Blacks� would that be a just statement?

You know that most white Americans hold the same view! Even a senator said this shortly after Katrina on Fox TV.

But I know these are baseless claims. I know that Black community in America has been subjected to a long era of persecution and suppression. It was Martin Luther who had been able to win the equal citizenship for Black community. Malcom X can also be considered such a personality who after joining the �NATION OF ISLAM� (black community of America) did finally converted to Islam.

So the same media is also depicting Muslims as part of terrorism and bloodshed without even considering the injustices done to them since last 200 years.  

Try to understand Muslims concerns and eradicate them. Live peacefully and let us live in peace.

 

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Shams good reply, but its no use. Manny is a guy who hates Islam and came here to disrupt peace.

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Dear Broher!

I can see that! If that be the case why should he be spreading hate while blaming us for that.

The only way is to clear his own mispreceptions about Islam or give evidence for the reason of hate. Perhaps he is another mis-informed American on Islam who need to come out of his media jargon.

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I find it interesting that no one in here really discussed these facts listed by Manny40(below).  Is anyone disputing these as facts? 

I would also like to add that the leader of Iran has stated that his goal is to destroy the nation of Israel and the Muslim world has shown no outrage over this. 

Hitler also wanted to destroy all Jews and is now probably the most hated person in the history of civilization, but the Iranian president claims to want the same thing that Hitler wanted, Jews destroyed, and the Muslim world seems ok with this. 

There are no Muslims calling for apologize from this leader advocating the murder of millions or demanding laws to bar him from making statements such as this!

  • Muslims fly commercial airliners into buildings in New York City.  No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslim officials block the exit where school girls are trying to escape a burning building because their faces were exposed.  No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslims cut off the heads of three teenaged girls on their way to school in Indonesia.  A Christian school.  No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslims murder teachers trying to teach Muslim children in Iraq.  No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslims murder over 80 tourists with car bombs outside cafes and hotels in Egypt.  No Muslim outrage.
  • A Muslim attacks a missionary children's school in India.  Kills six.  No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslims slaughter hundreds of children and teachers in Beslan, Russia.  Muslims shoot children in the back.  No Muslim outrage.
  • Let's go way back.  Muslims kidnap and kill athletes at the Munich Summer Olympics.  No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslims fire rocket-propelled grenades into schools full of children in Israel.  No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslims murder more than 50 commuters in attacks on London subways and busses.  Over 700 are injured.  No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslims massacre dozens of innocents at a Passover Seder.  No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslims murder innocent vacationers in Bali.  No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslim newspapers publish anti-Semitic cartoons.  No Muslim outrage
  • Muslims are involved, on one side or the other, in almost every one of the 125+ shooting wars around the world.  No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslims beat the charred bodies of Western civilians with their shoes, then hang them from a bridge.  No Muslim outrage.
  • Newspapers in Denmark and Norway publish cartoons depicting Mohammed.  Muslims are outraged.
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Dear All,

The issues above are not about Muslim or Islam, the religion. It is about politics and politic involves military trained personnel to carry out such act.

A human like you and me who have no military training will not be conducting such act. To be precise, all these killings were done by soldiers.

If "ya" wise and understanding, "ya" would know the terrorists carried out their evil act through using Islamic symbol are not Muslims and they have their own agenda ie. by using Islam as a symbolical group, they are hoping to garner support from all Islam countries. Unfortunately, they failed and this is the fact.

The fact is Prophet Muhammed did not preach about WAR. And that is the basic why the caricatures offended Muslims. Similarly, imagine someone is to draw a caricature of Buddha killing a young lad. This will offend all Buddhist.

Religion is like our parents. Without a religion, we have no life because there is no faith and faith is our guardian. Insulting someone's religion is like insulting someone's parents. This is common sense. How "ya" feel if someone insults your loved-ones?


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote liberty Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 February 2006 at 6:40am

The Muslim world is more outraged by a cartoon than one of their leaders advocating the destruction of Israel.

This I can not understand. 

I can understand your wanting to defend your faith.  But you must understand that the Western world does value FREEDOM OF SPEECH.  If you begin banning certain speech everytime someone is offended there will soon be many ideas and thoughts that can not be expressed.

We can not change our laws everytime an offended group becomes violent or threatens more violence.

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