History of Muslims

i dont think it is possible for any nation to be civilize or successful is the nation were to practice true islam.

the reason, i believe is due to the emulation of muhammad's lifestyle and what he had commanded. all faithful muslims must obey the words and life of muhammad.

below is a clip of video on hand cutting.  

http://www.apostatesofislam.com/media/handcutting.htm

ZamanH wrote: Muslims fell because of their indulgence in wine and women. Persians and Romans had fallen because of the same reasons before them. We fell because we digress from our religion and Allah punished us accordingly. Our salvation lies only in returning to our faith and not questioning it. Zaman.

Asalam Aalaikum,

Well,you might be right ,but even the Westerners are indulged in wine,gambling and other sorts of activities but still they are ahead of us in Science ,Technology and Economy.

In wordly progress ,I don't think that eeman(Faith and true belief in God) is essential since the main purpose of "eeman" and "aqidah" is to create fear of Allah(swt) in the heart of the person so that he may keep himself away from haram deeds and perform good deeds in his life. These things are essential for spiritual and religious aspects of a person.

How does "eeman" and "aqidah"(belief in Allah) assists and guide a person or a group of individuals in fields like Science, Technology and Economics?

I hope my concern is clear.


Regards,


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I found this, i mean they are really flaunting it in the face of the christians who have no idea in the world what they are looking at.



Notice the miter. the miter is a fish, it was used i babylon by the worshippers of dagon, the fish god. But the implication to the vatican is astrology. Jesus fed his people with 2 fish (pisces in the zodiac). He would be with us untill the end of the age. what age? the age of pisces that we are currently in. I mean i can do a 3 hour lecture on this part of the subject alone. And right now we are under "our lord (the sun)" rule untill the end of the age. the age of pisces. And the next age is then according to astrology, the age of the water pitcher.
Wich is illustrated nicely in the story where jesus tells his deciples to go into town, where they will meet a man carrying a WATER PITCHER and they should enter the house he enters with him. A house in astrology is a period of time.

Then there is the skewed cross. symbols with the skewed cross was quite popular in rome, amongts those that opposed the vatican rule, because they knew what it was. So as parody, they turned the crossupside down, skewed it and distorted it. What are we looking at in the hands of the pope smiling and waving is...a skewed cross with some twisted freakish abbomination on it. If the chirstians truely understood what they are looking at in this image, they would burn the place down to the ground, given that they can let go of their denial.

Im well aware this is completely off topic, and yet it isnt. This is the kind of research you need to do into hadith, its storys, and its symbolic implications at several places. Im happy to do a whole subject on OBVIOUS plagiation from the Bible, found in hadith, and thats not all i have found in that hodgepodge of theology and telltale. Its no different from the cathotlic church, infact. It is an eclectic theology, hadith...eclectic meaning that its authors has collected concepts and ideas from all over the place, many in dorect contradiction of the Quran. If people wants to belive those things are holy thats fine with me, i dont care im not God. However, i do my homework, and im very sceptic about hadith and its influnces in islam as we know it. And im not meaning that in a positive way at all

Peace
Noah