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Salam Asala,
   I am a muslim who grew up in the US. My parents never pushed me to wear hijab. I know that it is required to wear hijab but the choice should come from your heart. Even when you do decide to put hijab, Allah will help you get through your life. I did not put it until I was 18 but I wish I did it a long time ago. Put your faith in Allah and he will help you.
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Bismillah irrahman irrahim

Assalamu alaikum

A very good advice from sis danty, Im sure u must hav read hadith qudsi On the authority of Abu Harayrah (may Allah be pleased with him), who said that the Prophet (PBUH) said: Allah the Almighty said:

I am as My servant thinks I am (1). I am with him when he makes mention of Me. If he makes mention of Me to himself, I make mention of him to Myself; and if he makes mention of Me in an assembly, I make mention of him in an assemble better than it. And if he draws near to Me an arm's length, I draw near to him a fathom's length. And if he comes to Me walking, I go to him at speed.

so sis take one step towards Allah swt with sincerity and matters will become easier inshaAllah, another thing bout when sisters say it should come from ur heart n all that then we should be aware of the fact that Sayyidina Muhammad (saw) said that worst enemy of believer is between his own two ears meaning his nafs and in another narration that Shaytan runs in human like blood. so mayb it might seem hard to start with bcos u r doing a right thing, pleasing ur lord and thus causing a pain to shaytan so he is making it harder by whisperin n trying to influence ur nafs so step away n inshaAllah it will be ok, there was this sister in my uni she used to be covered head to toe in black n some1 asked her one day dont u feel hot in this in summer, she goes, 'fire of hell is hotter than this' subhanAllah very strong Imaan, our duas r with u inshaAllah n keep us in ur duas

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salaam sisters, i just wanna to share my personal experience with u as a muslim female living in New York. i moved here in 2003. when i moved here, i didnot do hijab. but i just started doing it not cuz anybody wants me to do just cuz i wanna to do it. cuz i almost do everything that i am suppose to do as a muslim. and believe me dont care for ppl or this wrold. its all fake and we are here to do our jobs. i would say one more thing do it from ur heart or otherwise dont do it. since, i start doing it, i feel more confident and safe cuz i am doing what i am suppose to do. this life is too short so dont waste ur time in thinking. just do it whatever is good and right and ask Allah's help.may Allah forgive all of us. AH
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I have one question.

is it compulsory in Islam to wear Hijab? or its personal choice?
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Originally posted by Jenni Jenni wrote:

So what, I am speaking the truth. Listen sisters, if you can't even get most of the women in Muslim countries to wear hijab(like Jordan, Pakistan, Egypt, Kuwait, Tunisia, Turkey ect.) Then you honestly think it will be so easy for women in western countries where women are harassed for them to all just go out and start wearing hijab? Please, my friend told me this-"In America you are all competing to see who is a better Muslim, you all want to turn each other into the muslims that you each think are the best. IF a woman wears a hijab, she wont accept you if you don't. Here in Pakistan a woman who does not wear hijab and one who does can be the best of friends. It is a NON-ISSUE, we don't even discuss it. IT is her choice and we respect it." Please ladies, what I have seen in the Muslim community has shown me NO EVIDENCE that the women who wear hijab are ANY MORE kind or pious than the ones who don't, the only difference between the two is that one has thier hair covered and one doesn't. ANd again if someone doesn't wear hijab, it is none of your business!!!

Sister Jenni,

I am so sorry you are feeling so defensive. Like I said, I wear Hijab 95% of the time when I am out. I work for a nursing agency and am not permitted to wear anything on my head when I work at the prison. Hijab is a personal choice and is between an Muslimah and Allah (swt) alone. Insh'allah, I believe the sisters were just discussing the matter and did not mean anything personal. After all, this is a discussion forum!

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Bismillah irrahman irrahim

Assalamu alaikum

Brother ak, covering of whole body other than face, hands and feet (some difference of opinion on feet among major Imams) is fardh, not a sunnah or an option, as the hukm of this could be found in the Holy Quran, here is an answer which explains the ayah of hijab

Concerning the standard explanation of the verse of hijab
Answered by Ustadha Zaynab Ansari

Assalamu alaikum,
I wanted to get clarification on the explanation Sh. Nuh gave on the evidence for hijab. This has been a topic of debate since the hijab ban discussion in France and I'm unclear now on where the requirement comes from.

Sh. Nuh writes:

'There is no other lexical sense in which the word khimar may be construed. The wording of the command, however, and let them drape their headcoverings over their bosoms, sometimes confuses nonspecialists in the sciences of the Qur'an, and in truth, interpreting the Qur'an does sometimes require in-depth knowledge of the historical circumstances in which the various verses were revealed. In this instance, the elliptical form of the divine command is because women at the time of the revelation wore their headcovers tied back behind their necks, as some village women still do in Muslim countries, leaving the front of the neck bare, as well as the opening (Ar. singular jayb, plural juyub, translated as "bosoms" in the above verse) at the top of the dress. The Islamic revelation confirmed the practice of covering the head, understood from the use of the word khimar in the verse, but also explained that the custom of the time was not sufficient and that women were henceforth to tie the headcover in front and let it drape down to conceal the throat and the dress's opening at the top.'

I'm a bit confused about how the wording used in these particular verses are considered to be a command. My earlier understanding of the evidence for hijab was that the specificity of the command came from the hadith in Abu Dawood about the Prophet (AS) pointing out to Asma that only the face and hands should be revealed. Can you please clarify what it is about the wording/grammar in the verses reference above that makes them the evidence for the fard status for hijab? I'm not clear how the word "khimar" in and of itself is used as evidence to say that hijab is required.


In the Name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful.

Praise be to Allah. May Allah's peace and blessings shower upon our beloved Messenger.

Dear Sister,

The obligation of hijab is evident when we examine the grammatical structure of this verse.

The translation:

"And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what (must ordinarily) appear thereof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms..." [Abdullah Yusuf Ali]

The style of the language employed in the verse is very important. Allah Most High begins with the imperative form of the verb "qalla," which means to say or tell. Thus, Allah Most High is commanding the Prophet, peace be upon him, to tell the believing women to take a series of steps:

1. To guard their gaze, which is an important factor in modest interaction;

2. To guard their chastity or sexuality;

3. To conceal their adornment and natural beauty, which scholars have interpreted to mean the whole body except for the face, hands, and (for Hanafis) the feet.

4. And, finally, to emphasize the above point, Allah Ta'ala uses the phrase, "wa-lyadhribna bikhumurihinna ala juyubihinna." The verb "yadhribna" which means "to draw or pull over" appears as a feminine plural, thus going back to the original subject of the verse, the believing women. Most importantly, it starts off with the letter "lam," which is called "lam al-amr." Lam al-amr, when prefixed to a present tense verb, such as "yadhribna," makes the verb an imperative, that is, a command. It is not understood as a recommendation, but a specific command directly from Allah Most High to His slaves among the believing women.

Lam al-amr is used in other imperative contexts in the Qur'an. For example, Allah Ta'ala says, "Let the man of means spend according to his means: and the man whose resources are restricted, let him spend according to what God has given him..." [Al-Talaq, 65:7]

Here, Allah Most High is commanding men to spend according to their means in the context of child support for divorced wives.

This is understood to be a command, not a recommendation, since men are required to support their children. The lam of command, or lam al-amr, once again appears prefixed to the present verb, "yunfiq," meaning "to spend." [Qatr al-Nada, Dar al-Asmaa, 96]

To return to the verse in question, the phrase "wa-lyadhribna bikhumurihinna ala juyubihinna," is a command for women to draw their veils over their bosoms. Allah Most High did not say, "And tell the believing women to put on their veils," because implicit in the verse is the understanding that women were already expected to veil. However, unlike the practice at the time of leaving the scarf hanging down the back with the neck and cleavage exposed, Muslim women were to take it one step further and draw the "khimar" or veil over the neck and cleavage area. Those who argue that the Qur'an says nothing about veiling are completely misreading this verse. Not only does the Qur'anic text make it clear that women are expected to veil, it also dictates the extent of the veiling, i.e., covering the neck and cleavage.

This point is elucidated by reports from Aisha, may Allah be pleased with her, and other women of the Sahaba, who immediately implemented this verse by tearing up pieces of cloth and covering their hair and bodies. Al-Bukhari recorded that Aisha, may Allah be pleased with her, said: "May Allah have mercy on the women of the early emigrants. When Allah revealed the verse:

(and to draw their veils over their bosoms), they tore their aprons and veiled themselves [made khimars] with them.'' [Tafsir Ibn Kathir]

The actions of the Sahaba, may Allah be pleased with them all, did not indicate that hijab was optional. I find it interesting that hijab was not legislated in stages, as opposed to the ban on intoxicants. When the verses in Surat al-Nur were revealed, the female Sahaba immediately covered themselves. Would that we had a fraction of their iman!

And Allah knows best.

Umm Salah (Zaynab Ansari)

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Bismillah,

Brother Ak,  Do a forum search on the topic of hijab because it has been discussed many times and it will take you a long time to read all that has been written before.  Main point, I absolutely disagree with Sister Fatima.  And what happens is that the sisters and brothers who feel as I do leave web sites like this because of the constant nagging and admonitions by others that we will go to hell for such ideas that disagree with theirs.

Look at how rudely Sister Maryah said that Sister Jenny was being "defensive".  I thought Sister Jenny was just stating important facts and I didn't see anything but truth and information in her post.

I always like to point out at this point that brothers have a dress code which they do not follow and then sisters say that is up to them, you are the one who will burn in hell for not putting a cloth on your head.  Whatever.  I also say that women shouldn't be in the front of battles, and by us wearing distinctively Islaamic clothing all of the time whereas the prevailing opinion is that men can slip in and out of Islaamic dress (jeans and suits don't fit the Islaamic requirement for men, brothers!), thus shielding themselves from scrutiny and danger while women wearing hijab do so all of the time exposing themselves to comment, criticism, and physical danger in a place where Muslims are reviled. 

The world reviles us; we need to love each other for our love of Islam and our wonderful rightly guided prophets guidance urges us to do so.  It is NOT loving to say:  You'll go to hell, but that's your business.

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Bismillah,

Assalaamualaikum

As far as going to hell is concerned....Only Allah knows who will go to hell and who to heaven! It is not our place to say such things.

 HADITH QUDSI: Narrated AbuHurayrah: I heard the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) say: There were two men among Banu Isra'il, who were striving for the same goal. One of them would commit sin and the other would strive to do his best in the world. The man who exerted himself in worship continued to see the other in sin. He would say: Refrain from it. One day he found him in sin and said to him: Refrain from it. He said: Leave me alone with my Lord. Have you been sent as a watchman over me? He said: I swear by Allah, Allah will not forgive you, nor will he admit you to Paradise. Then their souls were taken back (by Allah), and they met together with the Lord of the worlds. He (Allah) said to this man who had striven hard in worship; Had you knowledge about Me or had you power over that which I had in My hand? He said to the man who sinned: Go and enter Paradise by My mercy. He said about the other: Take him to hell. AbuHurayrah said: By Him in Whose hand my soul is, he spoke a word by which this world and the next world of his were destroyed.  (Book #41, Hadith #4883)



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