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Originally posted by kim! kim! wrote:

Heh - there have been a few weird Bible editions over the centuries - like the Bible in which the "not" was accidentally omitted from "thou shalt not kill". It has a nick-name, but I've forgotten what it is. Something like the "murderous Bible", or something...  

Kim... 

OOPS! I was wrong! It was the "Naughty Bible" because it left the "not" out of "Thou shalt not commit adultery"!

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And then there's the Romanian Bible...

My Mother's Grandfather was Romanian. He could follow a person into a
revolving door and come out ahead of them with a wallet, pocket watch
and a big smile the size of a European crosswalk.
He wore both suspenders and a belt. My Father said this was because
"The man didn't trust his own pants."

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Bismillah,

My grandpa's were Baptist preachers.  I didn't know them, unfortunately.

So this grandfather of yours, was he also Jewish as well as Romanian, or am I missing something?

I think we should do an Arab/Muslim version of the Princess Bride because laughter vitalizes us humans.

Al-Hamdulillah (From a Married Muslimah) La Howla Wa La Quwata Illa BiLLah - There is no Effort or Power except with Allah's Will.
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Gypsies are called Roma My Grampa was Jewish by birth but in his heart
he was a Gypsy. At least that is what he said. He said a lot and he always
captured our imaginations as children as being a Roma a King of Gypsies
no less. Roma. He told me I was a prince and my sister a princess. He
was a total character and I miss him. He drove my mother nuts with his
schemes and scams to make money instantly and his secular and totally
subversive attitudes towards any sort of authority. He snuck my sister
and I into any number of baptist churches in L.A. The fire and brimstone
stuff was disturbing to us and hilarious to him and I remember him with
his jaw set, his arms folded in front of his chest and the palm of his open
hand in a secret gesture to me to be cool because something wonderful
was coming. Gospel choir music. When the choir started to sing he'd look
at me sideways over his glasses making a double chin and his eyebrows
dance. "What'd I tell ya. Eh? Eh?..." I grew up thinking that all black people
were terribly clean, articulate, strict, organized and religious. I reasoned
that black people were treated so badly because there were too many
white people and that white people were naturally jealous. When I shared
this revelation with my grandfather he laughed and told me that I was a
genius.


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Bismillah,

I thought all people were naturally jealous, and NOW I find out it's just us whites!  What a wonderful grandfather!  It's too bad tolerance skips a generations sometimes.  What did your grandfather think about the Arabs and the situation in Israel and Phalastine?

I thought I had taught my daugher the things I feel naturally, like not being a bigot or racist; but she hates hispanics because a group of girls were very cruel to her when we moved to a new area. 

So is that it?  A group of Phalastinee were cruel to some Jews and the revenge is going to continue?  And then when time passes and the Phalastinee have more power, they will show equal cruelty in revenge also?  Of course I probably shouldn't have put the cruelty by Phalastinees first.  Who did it first is so important, right? (Maybe in reality it would be best to concentrate on who was the one to stop the cycle.)

So, there are people who want to just make peace, but we seem outnumbered by the people who need revenge.  Sorry for being so dismal. 

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My grandfather died in 1976 about 2 months after I was wounded in
Kadum just above Nabulus serving in the IDF. I wasn't supposed to be in
Israel at all according to him. My grandfather had never been a soldier.
He said "If you kill a person for any reason you destroy an entire world"
My brother had served in the US Army during the Vietnam war My Dad
was with the 101 in WW2. My Father saved the world and my brother and I
put ourselves in harms way for the agenda of businessmen and cynical
politicians. My grandfather didn't think about such things. They were
"worries". He felt that worrying was "a terrific waste of time."

I'm sorry your daughter had to experience that. kids can be pretty cruel
some times.

Regarding revenge and terror. It is not the only weapon available to an
oppressed people it isn't even the most effective. but it is the most
satisfying.

On the other hand, Non Violent Passive resistance takes great strength
restraint, courage and love. Personally I'm not up to it but I support it
and help people who practice peace.    


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Bismillah,

How is non-violent passive resistance helping, for example, in Israel and Phalasteen?

I think about Ruwanda and how so many people were murderers and how the families of the victims must co-exist with them.  How are they doing it, and how will they stand it?  If they make it, it seems anybody should be able to.

That's a beautiful saying of your grandfather's.  My feeling is that the most heinous killers and rapists should be killed also, maybe as an example; and people who are activelly physically trying to kill you, like in your house.

Then if we provide education, healthcare, and housing to people, most of them wouldn't be criminals anymore.

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I disagree that anyone should be executed by any state. Killing Eichman
here in Israel was a mistake. A person who presents a clear danger to
society should be reformed or removed from society. I clear danger is in
my mind: murder assault rape and willful destruction of theft of property.
If a person is presented with the choice of standing their ground or
running away from a mortal challenge they are ethically obligated to run
away. I would go so far to say that if a person stands their ground in a
public place where innocent people may be caught in the cross fire.
They should be found guilty of willful manslaughter. All life is sacred and
it up to Allah when a person dies and no one else
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