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Apple Pie 
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43.61 informs us that Jesus will return. Thus, Muslims cannot deny the Biblical claim, as it has been copied-over into their book of faith...
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BMZ
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I am really worried about him. If he comes back, the Israelis may hit the Shaikh with a missile. It is better to be safe. Anyway, the verse does not clearly refer or point to Jesus. I don't think he is coming. |
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Posted: 28 May 2006 at 5:50pm |
The context clearly demonstrates that the authors who penned this piece are referencing Jesus� And verily He, i.e. Jesus, by His appearing, and descending to the earth, shall be a sign of the approach of the hour (of Resurrection). Reference: An Arabic-English Lexicon, Time to obey your book of faith�
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Posted: 28 May 2006 at 6:53pm |
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George's statement: From what I heard the reference to Jesus breaking the cross means that he will disavow Christianity and say that he is a Muhammadian Muslim. He is supposed to kill all the pigs too, whatever that means. Poor pigs. It could be a reference to Jews because Allah called the Jews monkeys and pigs. Do you think he's going to kill all the Jews? George's statement: Although in the Koran, transformation into apes and pigs is connected only with Jews, Koranic commentary links transformation into apes and pigs with Christians as well. Verse 5:112-115 relates that the Apostles wanted to know whether God could bring down a table laden with food from the heavens. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Answer: Because of their constant defiance and blasphemy of GOD Almighty's Divine and Holy Words, some Jews were transformed into swines and apes during Prophet Moses (peace be upon him) times: "Say: "Shall I point out to you something much worse than this, (as judged) by the treatment it received from God? those who incurred the curse of God and His wrath, those of whom some He transformed into apes and swine, those who worshipped evil;- these are (many times) worse in rank, and far more astray from the even path!" (The Noble Quran, 5:60)" While the Bible doesn't explicitly contain this about the Jews, but it does contain OVERWHELMING evidence about the Jews' defiance and disobedience of GOD Almighty's Divine Words, and GOD Almighty's Promise to destroy them and bring plague upon them. Also, Numbers 16:30 below seems to agree with the Noble Quran's Divine Claims: Numbers 14 Numbers 14 Numbers 16 Deuteronomy 31 Because of their constant defiance and blasphemy of GOD Almighty's Divine and Holy Words, some Jews were transformed into swines and apes during Prophet Moses (peace be upon him) times: "Say: "Shall I point out to you something much worse than this, (as judged) by the treatment it received from God? those who incurred the curse of God and His wrath, those of whom some He transformed into apes and swine, those who worshipped evil;- these are (many times) worse in rank, and far more astray from the even path!" (The Noble Quran, 5:60)" George....you and the Christian website answering-islam.org have slandered Allah by saying "Allah called the Jews monkeys and pigs" by twisting Quran 5:60 etc. Can't you read? Quran 5:60 states that Allah had transformed the Jews who defied God into apes and swines because of the Jews' defiance and disobedience of GOD Almighty's Divine Words. Allah did not call all the Jews monkeys and pigs for there were some righteous Jews who obeyed God! Quran states that Allah transformed the Jews who defied God into monkeys and pigs! The Christian website answering-islam.org always slander, degrade and insult Islam by corrupting the Holy Quran into a lie. The priests of the answering-islam.org always twist the verses of the holy Quran to slander Islam. I am not surprised to see how the priests of christian website are beaten by www.answering-christianity.com in all the debates! Edited by AbRah2006 |
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God does not forbid you from showing kindness and dealing justly with those who have not fought you about religion and have not driven you out of your homes. God loves just dealers. (Quran, 60:8)
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Mishmish
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Posted: 28 May 2006 at 7:07pm |
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George: Is this verse literally speaking about dogs and swine? Matthew 7:6: Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
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It is only with the heart that one can see clearly, what is essential is invisible to the eye. (The Little Prince)
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AbRah2006
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Posted: 28 May 2006 at 8:34pm |
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Hey George...You claim falsely that Allah called the Jews as monkeys and pigs. Now it is my turn to expose the NT: Who are the non-Jews according to Jesus? I quote the NT: He [Jesus] answered, 'I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.' The woman came and knelt before him. 'Lord, help me!' she said. He [Jesus] replied 'It is not right to take the children's [Jews] bread [blessings and miracles reserved for them] and toss it to their dogs [the Gentiles].' (Matthew 15:22-28) Hey George...May I ask you a question? Are you a dog according to Matthew 15:22-28? Are those Christians who are not Jews the dogs? Jesus says so according to Matthew 15:22-28! Edited by AbRah2006 |
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God does not forbid you from showing kindness and dealing justly with those who have not fought you about religion and have not driven you out of your homes. God loves just dealers. (Quran, 60:8)
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BMZ
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Posted: 28 May 2006 at 8:58pm |
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Mishmish, From you:"George: Is this verse literally speaking about dogs and swine? Matthew 7:6: Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you. Whatelse could it mean Mishmish? The above verse is telling people not to feed the dogs and pigs what is halal (kosher) to the people. In the gnostic materials, which have been thrown away under the cover of Apocrypha, I read somewhere, I can't remember, "do not garland pigs with pearls". That could also mean, "Do not garland dogs and pigs." Anyway, here in this particular verse, it is clearly dogs and swines.
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Posted: 29 May 2006 at 1:06am |
  Apologies for disturbing your gloat, BMZ. Just thought I'd share that I also have Tourette's Syndrome. |
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