Who is the Comforter?

George,

"John 14:16-18, (16) "And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Comforter, that He may abide with you forever�(17) "The Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you." (18) "I will not leave you orphans; I will come to you."

Explain how this could be Muhammad.  Jesus says that his disciples know him.  Did Jesus disciples know Muhammad?

Jesus also says that the Comforter dwells with the disciples.  How did Muhammad dwell with the disciples?

The Holy Spirit, the Spirit of Truth is God, BMZ.

Now answer my questions above and we will go on to the next one.

OK, George. Here we go again. 

George, there are three verses in John's passage:

John 14: (16) "And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Comforter, that He may abide with you forever."

John 14:17 "The Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you."

John 14:18 "I will not leave you orphans; I will come to you."

Once we split the pack of three-in-one, the "puzzle" is solved.

Now you know from John 14:16 that the Comforter had to be a person. If it had to be an Spirit or The Spirit or The Spirit of Truth, Jesus would have not used the word Comforter.

Using your logic then Allah cannot be God and has to be a man because one of his names is the Comforter:

Home > 9. 99-Names of Allah

010 AL-JABB�R The Compeller, The Comforter, The Irresistible

http://talkislam.com/iquotes/quote.php?nNewsId=20653&nCa tId=280

No, BMZ, the Comforter is not a person, unless you want to call the Holy Spirit a person, which I doubt.  I would, of course, since Christians believe that God is Father, Son and Holy Spirit, One God in three "persons."  Jesus clearly identifies the Comforter as the Holy Spirit.

Even if it was another person, it could not have been Muhammad.  Remember Jesus said that the disciples knew him.  The disciples did not know Muhammad as he came along 600 years later.

This is clearly pointing to another man coming after Jesus and obviously that person is only Muhammad. Jesus did not come back at all and left them orphans.

God sends the Spirit of his Son into the hearts of Christian believes.  Jesus did not leave us orphans, BMZ.  The Scriptures are not pointing to another man, BMZ, no matter how much you want them to be. 

That is John's problem.  By the way, you have not produced anything from other gospel writers on the issue of the Comforter, yet. I am waiting.

BMZ, the Comforter is the Holy Spirit.  You know when the disciples received that indwelling Holy Spirit. You've read the Bible, why do I have to point it all out to you?

"for He dwells with you and will be in you" contradicts that statement. Then there would have been no need of a Comforter at all, if the Spirit of Truth dwelled in them.

Remember the first Comforter is Jesus.  When Jesus was with them the disciples did not need another Comforter.  He was it.  But Jesus is going away and the disciples need another Comforter.  The Comforter/Holy Spirit is given to all believers in Jesus the Messiah.  They knew the Holy Spirit, but this time the Holy Spirit would indwell them.

Muhammad is still abiding with us. Now I hope you will not ask me "When Muhammad is dead, how can he abide with you?" and I will have to say that he lives in our mind, memory and heart. But you may ask me, "How can he live in your mind?" and I will say that we cherish his memories and what he left for us. We talk about him daily, ask God Almighty to bless him many, many times every day.

Your comment is irrelevant.  The subject is the Comforter/Holy Spirit and not how Muslims feel about Muhammad. 

Since the Comforter is not Muhammad, maybe you should look at other verses in the Gospel to see if you can find him.

To BMZ,

George,

This is not going anywhere.

Now let me ask you a question:

Was the Holy Spirit dwelling in the Jews or dwelling in the hearts of the Jews or dwelling with the Jews, before the birth of Jesus or who was dwelling in their hearts?

I know that there were times when God withdrew his spirit from the Jews.  This  verse said by David seems to indicate that God can withdraw his spirit.

Psalm 51:11 "Do not cast me away from Your presence, and do not take Your Holy Spirit from me."

This verse would indicate that God's spirit can be withdrawn.

I took the following from the Jewish Encyclopedia. 

It may also be taken away from the chosen one and transferred to some one else (Num. xi. 17).

When the Temple was destroyed and Israel went into exile, the Holy Spirit returned to heaven; this is indicated in Eccl. xii. 7: "the spirit shall return unto God" (Eccl. R. xii. 7).

When Phinehas sinned the Holy Spirit departed from him (Lev. R. xxxvii. 4; comp. Gen. R. xix. 6; Pesiḳ. 9a).

Although the Holy Spirit was not continually present, and did not rest for any length of time upon any individual, yet there were cases in which it appeared and made knowledge of the past and of the future (ib.; also with reference to Akoba, Lev. R. xxi. 8; to Gamaliel II., ib. xxxvii.3. and Tosef., Pes. i. 27; to Meir, Lev. R. ix. 9; etc.)

Was it the God who was dwelling or indwelling them? Do you find any difference between the words "dwelling in" or "indwelling"?

Yes, God dwelling by his spirit.  I don't see a difference between dwelling in or indwelling.

A simple and straightforward answer would be higly appreciated.