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    Posted: 01 January 2009 at 9:36pm
I would like to hear from our non-Muslim brothers and sisters - if there is anything/any aspect about Islam that appeals to them, or they like. We dont neccassarily have to believe in it, but sometimes there are things about other religions, that we like or sound good to us.
 
So what is it about Islam, that you like? To make the discussion more interesting, you can also tell stuff that interests you about Islam / makes you curious. . .
 
So go ahead, pl share.
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I like this verse.  I think Mohammad understood that Jesus was the way.  Was Mohammad originally a Christian?

 LOL!  Or if the Quran is really GOD's word then all Muslims have disregarded this most important verse!!  They have added more to the meaning then what is truly there.
 
003.055 YUSUFALI: Behold! Allah said: "O Jesus! I will take thee and raise thee to Myself and clear thee of those who blaspheme; I will make those who follow thee superior to those who reject faith, to the Day of Resurrection: Then shall ye all return unto me, and I will judge between you of the matters wherein ye dispute.
PICKTHAL: when Allah said: O Jesus! Lo! I am gathering thee and causing thee to ascend unto Me, and am cleansing thee of those who disbelieve and am setting those who follow thee above those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection. Then unto Me ye will return, and I shall judge between you as to that wherein ye used to differ.
SHAKIR: And when Allah said: O Isa, I am going to terminate the period of your stay and cause you to ascend unto Me and purify you of those who disbelieve and make those who follow you above those who disbelieve to the day of resurrection; then to Me shall be your return, so l will decide between you concerning that in which you differed.
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Man... you are persistent! Pls tell me, what do you believe... In what you want to believe or in that which is the truth?
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Originally posted by believer believer wrote:

I like this verse.  I think Mohammad understood that Jesus was the way.  Was Mohammad originally a Christian?

Or maybe Jesus was a Muslim . . . and if you believe in him Believer, maybe you should be one too? how about that? :) Jesus paved the way for Muhammad to complete the message - thats what Muslims believe.
 
The discussion isnt exactly going where I thought it would. But okay, lets assume this is the "part" about Islam that you like...this verse. In an attempt to steer back to the topic.
 
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003.055 YUSUFALI: Behold! Allah said: "O Jesus! I will take thee and raise thee to Myself and clear thee of those who blaspheme; I will make those who follow thee superior to those who reject faith, to the Day of Resurrection: Then shall ye all return unto me, and I will judge between you of the matters wherein ye dispute.

SHAKIR: And when Allah said: O Isa, I am going to terminate the period of your stay and cause you to ascend unto Me and purify you of those who disbelieve and make those who follow you above those who disbelieve to the day of resurrection; then to Me shall be your return, so l will decide between you concerning that in which you differed.
 
So what part of this verse tells you that Muhammad was a Christian? This verse tells us how Allah saved Jesus from crucifiction, and told him that he would clear him of those that blaspheme (i.e. call Jesus divine, or God's son.)
 
And by 'those who follow thee' Allah is referring to those who follow Jesus's message, which would mean - Muslims. Who are better 'christians' today, than the christians themselves - no disrespect. We worship the One True God, give Jesus his due respect as a Prophet/Messenger, believe in his prophecy of Muhammad, and avoid all the things he asked us to (idol worship, adultery, pork, alcohol, etc etc )
 
So. . . anyone has anything relevant to the topic perhaps?  Smile
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 No I asked - Was Mohammad originally a Christian?
 
LOL!!   You sound pretty sure of yourself!!  LOL!!  when you say-
"And by 'those who follow thee' Allah is referring to those who follow Jesus's message, which would mean - Muslims. Who are better 'christians' today, than the christians themselves - no disrespect. We worship the One True God, give Jesus his due respect as a Prophet/Messenger, believe in his prophecy of Muhammad, and avoid all the things he asked us to (idol worship, adultery, pork, alcohol, etc etc )"
 
LOL!!  Guess what! We do worship the One True GOD.  Now that is something I hate about Islam- you judge and do not accept a  different perception Of GOD, you limit Him into a tiny cubby and say He can not be more than what YOU say He is!!  LOL!!  Our perception of GOD is different but it is the same GOD.
 
Rituals and outward appearances will not make you holy.
 
Matthew 22:34-40
 
34Hearing that Jesus had silenced the Sadducees, the Pharisees got together. 35One of them, an expert in the law, tested him with this question:

 36"Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?" 37Jesus replied: " 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.' 38This is the first and greatest commandment. 39And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' 40All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments."

By the way that is hugely disrepectful, sick and yes obscene saying that you are better christians-Muslims do not accept the huge momentous sacrifice given by Jesus, part of GOD's plan to be a gift of grace for us.
 
It is nice knowing that this is in your Quran about the followers of Jesus!!  There is always hope that Muslims may some day get the jist of the message.
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saladin I believe in the truth.
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I like some of the pragmatic aspects of Islam. Unfortunately, from a philosophical-scientific standpoint, Islam is ideological like Christianity, therefore does not exist to me.
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I like its simplicity-- it's a relatively uncomplicated, or pragmatic (as Hyposonic said) religion without a lot of bizarre rituals. I think it's also one of the most inclusive religions-- anyone can be Muslim regardless of age, race, gender, nationality or prior religious history. Its primary religious text, the Holy Quran is very readable, easy to understand, and because it was obviously authored by one person, it has a continuity the Bible lacks.
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