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    Posted: 12 July 2005 at 8:46pm

The Muslim world's top scholars have agreed that fatwas, or religious edicts, should only be issued by clerics with religious authority. The move is meant to weaken statements by figures involved in fighting in Iraq who ordain violence. The three-day meeting in Amman, which ended on Wednesday, has for the first time gathered representatives of eight Sunni and Shia Muslim schools of thought.


They all also agreed that followers cannot label other Muslims as "apostates", something groups in Iraq have done to justify attacks against Iraqi police and civilians. A conference statement said the clerics agreed that an adherent of each of the eight schools of thought "is a Muslim". "Declaring that person an apostate is impossible, verily his or her blood, honor and property are sacrosanct," according to the statement read by Jordanian Religious Affairs Minister Abdul-Salam al-Abadi.

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The meeting, which brought together about 180 scholars and clergymen from 40 countries including the United States, was sponsored by the semi-independent Al Elbeit Foundation. The religious think-tank is led and partly financed by members of Jordan's ruling Hashemite dynasty, which claims direct descent from the Prophet Muhammad. Jordan's King Abdullah II brought the clerics together to discuss a plan to implement a Jordanian initiative declared in November. Dubbed the "Amman Message", the initiative urges Muslims to reject extremism, embrace moderation and tolerate other religions.

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In the lead-up to the conference, 10 top Muslim clergymen - including Egypt's Grand Imam Sheik al-Azhar Mohammed Sayyed Tantawi and Iraq's Grand Ayat Allah Ali al-Sistani - ruled that fatwas must only be in the hands of qualified clerics recognized by Islam's eight schools of thought. "The issuance of religious edicts is limited to qualified Muslim clerics in the eight schools of jurisprudence," said the conference statement. It said the meeting called for "casting aside disagreement between Muslims and unifying their words and stances". 

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King Abdullah had told the opening meeting on Monday that Muslims must search their souls and extremists must accept the blame over the "malicious" attacks against their religion by non-Muslims after Islamic-linked terrorism and violence in countries such as Iraq. Abdullah presided over the closing session to underline the significance he attached to the meeting. He did not address the clerics on Wednesday but sat in to hear the final communique. The monarch is seen as a key US ally in the Middle East and a voice of moderation although his country has been criticized by fighters such al-Qaida's Iraq chief Abu-Musab al-Zarqawi for its close ties with the West.

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Bismillah

Quote The Muslim world's top scholars have agreed that fatwas, or religious edicts, should only be issued by clerics with religious authority.

Let's hope that authorisation will not need approval of Bush & Blair Inc. The very fact that the report mentions 'sponsors' of the event already brings shivers... Buying and selling fatwas. "Interesitng".

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Bro MOCKBA, don't you feel the need for such a measure? For me Fatwa's without authentic certificates is just a piece of junk but for many Muslims, especially in arab world, it does mean alot even if they can't verify the credentials of its originators. What's your opinon?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote yusufevers Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 July 2005 at 1:51pm

it is amazing isn't?    almost of the imaams mentioned in the article are state appointed (and paid) and not to forget state controlled.  

the king of jordan is probably the worst muslim of all muslims leaders in the world. 

so the above gentlemen hit on the real muslims who fight for their country's freedom as Allah Subhan wa Tallah ordered all muslims to do so. 

remember our Beloved Prophet (PBUH) said:  one of the signs of the Last Day will be that when a dog attacks a muslim country it can not defend itself.

this is due to this great imaams and their hunger for power and love for the kufar.  and Allah knows best!

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Bismillah

Originally posted by AhmadJoyia AhmadJoyia wrote:

Bro MOCKBA, don't you feel the need for such a measure? For me Fatwa's without authentic certificates is just a piece of junk but for many Muslims, especially in arab world, it does mean alot even if they can't verify the credentials of its originators. What's your opinon?

There is absolutely no doubt that fatwas are to be issued by qualified people (preferrably through consultation). Nobody has ever claimed otherwise. Qualification requirements however are not to be dictated by "moderate and progressive" Muslims or corrupt Monarchs and their non-believing masters. Neither can they be achieved through sponsoring events or buying recognition.

This appears to be an attempt to install practices of lobbying and money-politics within Muslim societies that are very common if not fundamental in the ungodly governing systems of the western world.

Authenticity should be established but not by Abdullah of Jordan and not on the ground that he claims to have "direct descent from Prophet Muhammad...". 

They will try, however, hi-jacking the authority, through various PR techniques similiar to the one reported above. This is why every Muslim should not be ignorant of what Allah commands us in the Quran and what Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) instructed us to do through the Sunnah.



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Bro MOCKBA, though without arguing upon your concerns of attempting to hi-jack the authority by someone with vested interests, shouldn't the true Ulema have done similar consultation at their own? I doubt if there is any even a word of communication among them on the current issues. Their silence on these issues may be interpreted my someone as acquiescence of it rather than denouncing it. Isn't this itself make them blameworthy?
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Bi ismillahir rahmanir raheem

assalamu alaikum

The only authority in Islam is the four madhhabs, Each of these madhhabs have there methodology for ensuring that any ruling is in line with the Quran and Sunnah so a hanafi scholar living in Africa can know if a ruling made by another hanafi scholar living in Malaysia is in line with the methodology of the madhhab thus ensuring the integraty of Islam.

It is only when you see so called modern scholars who either dont follow a madhhab ie no methodology just there own personal judgment or scholars who do follow a madhhab but think they are capable of ijtihad that rulings contrary to Islam arise.

Or the scholar is just corupt and he is making rulings and claiming they are part of islam and from the madhhabs.

Islam has only 4 schools of thought, Hanafi, shafii, Maliki, Hanbali.

Shia, wahabi and what ever else they include to make up 8 is just an outright lie that they hold any authority in traditional mainstream islam. The shia have never been recognised as being a school of thought by sunni scholars and the wahabis themselves would be insulted being labelled a madhhab, they have no methodology for there law what so ever.

I think the author of the article is ignorant of the fundamental basics of what a school of thought actualy is.


Rasul Allah (sallah llahu alaihi wa sallam) said: "Whoever knows himself, knows his Lord" and whoever knows his Lord has been given His gnosis and nearness.
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