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    Posted: 01 November 2005 at 10:15pm
Bi ismillahir rahmanir raheem

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The following is used to indicate where in the world the moon can be seen from, it must still be seen by human eye as shariah law states.

Sighting Possibilities for Shawwal 1426

Eid-al-Fitr: The Astronomical New Moon is on Wednesday, November 2, 2005, at 1:25 Universal Time, i.e. November 1, 8:25pm Eastern Standard Time - or 5:25pm Pacific Standard Time. On November 2, the moon would be about 24 hours old on West Coast of USA and still not visible even by telescopes, because the moon will be in Southern Hemisphere. It could be seen in South America and possibly with aided eye (Binocular/telescope) in South Africa. Although it may be possible to see a moon in perfect conditions in some South American countries like Chile, it is highly unlikely, because the moon is setting in less than 25 minutes after the sunset (in Santiago, Chile), and the sky is too bright with the glare of the sun even after 25 minutes. "ISNA accepts sighting within 48 contiguous states of USA and the whole North America is outside all possible visibility curves. So, Eid in North America Eid is expected to be on Friday, November 4, 2005. Similarly, in Europe, Asia, Middle East and Australia, Eid is expected to be on Friday, November 4, 2005, if sighting is the criterion. Visibility curve for November 3 is also given below:

November 2, 2005
LocationMoonset-SunsetAge (Hrs)Angle from SunAltitudeRemarks
Sidney, Australia17 minutes7.04.4�2.4�Impossible even by telescope
New Delhi, India 3 minutes10.76.1�0.0�Impossible even by telescope
Karachi, Pakistan6 minutes11.46.4�0.6�Impossible even by telescope
Makkah,Saudi Arab11 minutes13.37.4�1.5�Impossible even by telescope
London England UK-11 minutes15.18.2�-ve�Impossible even by telescope
Miami Florida USA22 minutes21.211.3�3.6�Impossible even by telescope
San Diego CA, USA21 minutes23.512.4�2.9�Impossible even by telescope
Visibility Curve on November 2, 2005
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Visibility Curve on November 3, 2005
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Click to find out "How to Read the Visibility Map"

Remember: If some one claimed sighting at a location and people west of that location (within the visibility parabola) did not see the moon on the same date then that claim is invalid. We have enough scientific knowledge to screen out wrong claims. If we accept any claims from anywhere when people see something and think that it was moon, then I must say that we will be disobaying Allah (SWT) against Surah 2, Ayah 189, "Yas-aloonaka 'anil-Ahillah, qul hiya mawaqeetu linnas-e wal-Hajj," because "Asshamsu wal-qamaru Bi-husbaan" and Ahillah (Crescents) follow that Hiassab. According to Hanifi Fiqh, to establish authenticity of a sighting claim, one man's witness or small number of individuals' claim is not sufficient in clear skies; a large number of witnesses is needed.

http://moonsighting.com/

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to give you an idea of how widespread the confusion is over following calenders or moonsighting,

Sydney Eid Dates 1426 - Mosque by Mosque Guide
Mosque or OrganisationEid DateMethodEid Prayer Time
Al Azhar Mosque


Al-Ghazzali CentreThu 3rd or Fri 4thMoon SightingN/A
Auburn Gallipoli MosqueThu 3rdPre Determined7:00 am
Auburn Omar Mosque


Green Valley MosqueThu 3rd or Fri 4thMoon Sighting
GIYC LiverpoolThu 3rdPre Determined8:00 am
Haldon St MusallahThu 3rd or Fri 4thMoon Sighting
Masjid Fatima Al ZahrahThu 3rd or Fri 4thMoon Sighting
Blacktown MosqueThu 3rdPre Determined7:00 am
Bonnyrigg MosqueThu 3rdPre Determined6:45 am
Dee Why MosqueThu 3rdPre Determined7:30 am
Nabi Ikram GranvilleThu 3rd or Fri 4thMoon Sighting
Narwee MusallahThu 3rd or Fri 4thMoon Sighting
Illawarra MosqueThu 3rdPre Determined7:00 am
Imam Hussain CentreFri 4thVisibility Prediction7:00 am
Lakemba MosqueThu 3rdPre Determined7:00 am
Masjid Daarul ImaanThu 3rdPre Determined8:00am
Minto Mosque


Nepean Mosque


Newcastle MosqueThu 3rdPre Determined8:00 am
Penshurst Mosque


Redfern Mosque


Punchbowl MusallahThu 3rdPre Determined8:00 am
Quakers Hill MusallahThu 3rd or Fri 4thMoon Sighting9:30 am
Rooty Hill MosqueThu 3rd or Fri 4thMoon Sighting8:00 am
Rydlemere MosqueThu 3rd or Fri 4thMoon Sighting
Sefton MosqueThu 3rd or Fri 4thMoon Sighting8:00 am
Smithfield MosqueThu 3rdPre Determined7:00 am
Surry Hills MosqueThu 3rd or Fri 4thMoon Sighting
Tempe Mosque


Zetland MosqueThu 3rdPre Determined8:00 am
Woodward Park LiverpoolThu 3rdPre Determined7:30 am

the blank spaces are unknown as yet.


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Nice piece of info at the right time. I appreciate it. May Allah bless you.
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WHERE IS TORONTO ?!!!!!
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I am highly disappointed to say that the website www.moonsighting.com has contradicted itself by declaring Eid on Thrusday for North America on one side and making it "impossible" on the other side both on the same webpage. This is totally beyond comprehension. Is there anyone who can clarify this to me?

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Bi ismillahir rahmanir raheem

assalamu alaikum

Torronto is in canada, the above is for sydney mosques only.

br Ahmad can you please quote the information i can not find it on the site. If you are refering to the opening paragraph it is quoting the oposing groups in the USA and not declaring anything at this stage.

remember we are not looking for the new moon but the hilal (very fine cresent) which is seen 1 day after the new moon as the new moon is imposible to see at any time ever.


New Moon
Waxing Crescent
First Quarter
Waxing Gibbous
Full Moon
Waning Gibbous
Last Quarter
Waning Crescent



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Eid Mubarik! everyone.

Bro Rami, here are the contents of the website

Quote Eid-al-Fitr: The Astronomical New Moon is on Wednesday, November 2, 2005, at 1:25 Universal Time, i.e. November 1, 8:25pm Eastern Standard Time - or 5:25pm Pacific Standard Time. On November 2, the moon would be about 24 hours old on West Coast of USA and still not visible even by telescopes, because the moon will be in Southern Hemisphere. It could be seen in South America (with difficulty by naked eye) and possibly in South Africa (with aided eye - Binocular/telescope). Although it may be possible to see a moon in perfect conditions in some South American countries like Chile, it is highly unlikely, because the moon is setting in less than 25 minutes after the sunset (in Santiago, Chile), and the sky is too bright with the glare of the sun even after 25 minutes. "ISNA accepts sighting within 48 contiguous states of USA and the whole North America is outside all possible visibility curves. So, Eid in North America Eid is expected to be on Friday, November 4, 2005.

Though, I could have been wrong of understanding b/w new moon and the halal, as what you have indicated, had this categorcial prediction of having Eid on Friday, Nov 4, 2005 had not been mentioned. It is this statement (highlighted and bold) that contradicts their declaration of Eid on Thrusday. Isn't it?
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Bi ismillahir rahmanir raheem

Where have they stated that Eid is on thursday?

it is a confucing statment as they are not clear on terms.

the following is from U.S. Naval Observatory they have said the new moon will be on Nov 2 ie the Wed making the hilal (fine cresent) on thursday and Eid on Friday.

http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/MoonPhase.html

2005 Phases of the Moon

Universal Time

      NEW MOON    FIRST QUARTER        FULL MOON     LAST QUARTER

       d  h  m          d  h  m          d  h  m          d  h  m

                                                   JAN.   3 17 46
JAN.  10 12 03   JAN.  17  6 57   JAN.  25 10 32   FEB.   2  7 27
FEB.   8 22 28   FEB.  16  0 16   FEB.  24  4 54   MAR.   3 17 36
MAR.  10  9 10   MAR.  17 19 19   MAR.  25 20 58   APR.   2  0 50
APR.   8 20 32   APR.  16 14 37   APR.  24 10 06   MAY    1  6 24
MAY    8  8 45   MAY   16  8 56   MAY   23 20 18   MAY   30 11 47
JUNE   6 21 55   JUNE  15  1 22   JUNE  22  4 14   JUNE  28 18 23
JULY   6 12 02   JULY  14 15 20   JULY  21 11 00   JULY  28  3 19
AUG.   5  3 05   AUG.  13  2 38   AUG.  19 17 53   AUG.  26 15 18
SEPT.  3 18 45   SEPT. 11 11 37   SEPT. 18  2 01   SEPT. 25  6 41
OCT.   3 10 28   OCT.  10 19 01   OCT.  17 12 14   OCT.  25  1 17
NOV.   2  1 24   NOV.   9  1 57   NOV.  16  0 57   NOV.  23 22 11
DEC.   1 15 01   DEC.   8  9 36   DEC.  15 16 15   DEC.  23 19 36
DEC.  31  3 12

you may also like to see here on there site.

 New Moon - The Moon's unilluminated side is facing the Earth. The Moon is not visible (except during a solar eclipse).






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