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    Posted: 26 September 2014 at 8:26am
Hello sisters and brothers. I want up your advices please. I have been married for over 16 years. We have a 14 year old son. For the first 6 years of marriage my husband did not work because he was happy to live off me. Then he got a job for two years. During that time he contributed to family and household costs. Then he stopped that job and started working for himself. Since that time he has never contributed regularly or sufficiently to our household bills, always thinking that my salary will cover the bills, but this is not the case now and I have to borrow money to pay the bills. When I ask him to contribute, he laughs and says he has no money. He goes to mosque 5 times a day, but for a long time he told me his morning visits out of house where for exercise. My son told me his dad went to mosque at that time.
Now, he told me yesterday morning that his office has sent him for training to Dubai. He left yesterday evening and until now didn't call me. His friend send a message which came only after my husband left wishing him good trip to Haaj. I now find out that he has lied to me and has gone to Haaj, not for training. But just last week when I asked him for money he told me he had none. Please tell me what to do. Also, if he lied about going to Haaj, will it count for Jennat? Sorry for long message.
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Salaam,

It looks like your husband has been living a lie all these years of your marriage. Islamically, it is his responsibility to look after the family and spend the money which he earns. If you work then that money is entirely yours, if you want to keep all of the money to yourself then you are free to do so.

As he has gone to perform Hajj on a lie then his Hajj will not be accepted. Also praying five times a day then as soon you step out of the masjid you commit sins then the prayers will not be accepted either.

The only options left to you are to confront him and tell him that you know he has lied to you all these years and then give him a chance to change In Shaa Allah. The other option, if he doesn't change, is to divorce.
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One can only assume that an understanding between you and your husband allowed for your income to support the family for the first six years. When he was able to provide from his income he contributed. It is the nature of having your own business that income will fluctuate so this will require patience on your part until his efforts are more fruitful. How is it that he gave an excuse that his "office" sent him, when he is working for himself? What type of atmosphere exists in the home that would make him less than forthcoming about his exact whereabouts?
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Originally posted by Abu Loren Abu Loren wrote:



As he has gone to perform Hajj on a lie then his Hajj will not be accepted. Also praying five times a day then as soon you step out of the masjid you commit sins then the prayers will not be accepted either.


Statements such as the above require textual evidence.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Abu Loren Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 September 2014 at 5:13am
Originally posted by abuayisha abuayisha wrote:


Statements such as the above require textual evidence.


It's simple logic.

If I decide to sin all my life and then decide tp perform Hajj on my death bed so that my sins may be forgiven then we would ALL do that won't we?

To perform Hajj one should go with a pure heart and a pure intention.

I would go further and say that his prayers won;t be accepted either as he is a munafiq.
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The trouble is, whose "simple" logic do we base our religious practice and understanding upon? Ali (raa) once said, 'If the religion were based on opinion, it would be more fitting the wipe the under part of the leather socks rather than the upper part of it. However, I have seen the Messenger of Allah wiping over the upper parts of his leather socks.�

(Reported by Abu Dawud with a good chain of narrators)




Edited by abuayisha - 28 September 2014 at 10:18am
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ron Webb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 September 2014 at 2:16pm
Originally posted by abuayisha abuayisha wrote:

Originally posted by Abu Loren Abu Loren wrote:

As he has gone to perform Hajj on a lie then his Hajj will not be accepted. Also praying five times a day then as soon you step out of the masjid you commit sins then the prayers will not be accepted either.

Statements such as the above require textual evidence.

For what it's worth, on islamqa.info I found a reference to the following hadith:

"Ibn �Abd al-Barr (may Allah have mercy on him) said:
With regard to the accepted Hajj, it was said that it is that in which there is no showing off or seeking reputation, and in which there is no obscene speech or evil deeds, and it is done with halaal wealth."
Al-Tamheed lima fi�l-Muwatta� min al-Ma�aani wa�l-Asaaneed, 22/39

It seems to me that if a man takes money that ought to have been used to support his family and uses it for Hajj instead, that would be an evil deed and the money (essentially stolen from his family) would not be "halaal wealth".  But I'll try to leave this discussion to others.
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It seems to me that Ron Webb knows more about Islam than abuayisha.
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