The same pattern

I spoke with a non muslim from middle eastern country last night who has a thick book of khadith compilation with him, and who has the feeling of delight in quoting the wars mentioned in it and the virgin in heavans.

Very little we mentioned the Qur'an altho I insisted on it. He tried to quote a verse - and it was a verse about war - which I tried to help in locating it. I am sure it was from chapter 9 but he reckons it was in chapter 2. What an expert he was.

He was a taxi driver I was his pessenger, We had roughly 25 minutes conversation, he did most of the talking. Before we part I asked him two questions:

1. How many verses are they in the Qur'an?
2. How khadiths are they in the book of khadiths?

He asked me what was those questions for since of course he did not know how many they are. He was going to quote another khadith from that book but I told him to forget it until he knows how many subjects the book deals with. It seem the way the mind works is set what to find.

In 1998 a man quoted few khadiths in the discussion forum - than I repost his khadith quotation verbatim, except - except that I highlited all the word KILLING, BLOOD, SWORD. I asked him to count how many are they. Once he done the counting he said to me - So?

1. How many verses are they in the Qur'an?

fredifreeloader wrote: how many verses are there in the quran? - well that depends what kind of muslim you are.  shia believe the quran is incomplete and falsified, and should have 17000 ayat

Yeah I read that before. But when I asked the shiah themselves few times they seem don't know it themselves. So I guess to treat them as they are.

Alright, how many verses are they in it?

fredifreeloader wrote: how many verses are there in the quran? - well that depends what kind of muslim you are.  shia believe the quran is incomplete and falsified, and should have 17000 ayat

If your Shia friends think that Qur'an is incomplete, I say they forfeit the right to be addressed as Muslims.  I think they have a diseased mind  like Christians in need of a redeemer.

Why are they hanging on to a book which they consider as falsified? UK is a free country to believe in anything one wants. I know lot of Shias on the Statesside and the way they think and behave, they could be anything but Muslims.
Qur'an is not like the case of Protestant Bible vs Catholic Bible. You know--

superme wrote: fredifreeloader wrote: how many verses are there in the quran? - well that depends what kind of muslim you are.  shia believe the quran is incomplete and falsified, and should have 17000 ayat Yeah I read that before. But when I asked the shiah themselves few times they seem don't know it themselves. So I guess to treat them as they are. Alright, how many verses are they in it?

I don't know whether it was a puzzle for the taxi driver or an open question ? In these days of Googling what information is not available?
type in stats on Quran-click and you have couple of sites and there you have the spread sheet with all the details.
If you can't, I will do it for you