Mary of the Quran

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   Why does Mohammed confuse Mary, the mother of Jesus, with Miriam, the sister of Aaron and Moses?  It seems to me that Mohammed got his Marys mixed up to say the very least.
"Carry the child (Jesus), she (Mary) came to her people, who said to her: 'Mary, this is indeed a strange thing! Sister of Aaron, your father was never a whore-monger, nor was your mother a harlot.'" (paratheticals added)
This vs. clearly states that after Mary gave birth to Jesus, the towns people were reproaching her for sexual sin - however, in their reproach they call her Aaron's sister.  
One authority states,
"This mistake was discerned by the Arabic Christians of Najran.  There is a record of them exposing Muhammad's mistake about Mary.  It's found in authentic Islamic writings, known as the Hadith or Traditions.  The quote is from the collection of Traditions compiled by an Islamic scholar known as Imam Muslim."
           (Is Mary the Sister of Aaron? by Silas)

Edited by Alibaba

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Alibaba Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest Group Joined: 19 April 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 134	Post Options Post Reply Quote Alibaba Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Mary of the Quran Posted: 15 May 2006 at 12:49pm
	Why does Mohammed confuse Mary, the mother of Jesus, with Miriam, the sister of Aaron and Moses? It seems to me that Mohammed got his Marys mixed up to say the very least. "Carry the child (Jesus), she (Mary) came to her people, who said to her: 'Mary, this is indeed a strange thing! Sister of Aaron, your father was never a whore-monger, nor was your mother a harlot.'" (paratheticals added) This vs. clearly states that after Mary gave birth to Jesus, the towns people were reproaching her for sexual sin - however, in their reproach they call her Aaron's sister. One authority states, "This mistake was discerned by the Arabic Christians of Najran. There is a record of them exposing Muhammad's mistake about Mary. It's found in authentic Islamic writings, known as the Hadith or Traditions. The quote is from the collection of Traditions compiled by an Islamic scholar known as Imam Muslim." (Is Mary the Sister of Aaron? by Silas) Edited by Alibaba

BMZ Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Joined: 03 April 2006 Status: Offline Points: 1852	Post Options Post Reply Quote BMZ Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 May 2006 at 5:43pm
	If Mirium, the sister of Aaron, gave birth to Jesus, I shall gladly accept that and consider her to be Mary , the mother of Jesus. Would you be Okay with that. That is the style of Semitic languages. Remember the wife of Isaiah who was supposed to give birth to Immanuel, I can call her in Arabic as Imra'a-tul-Isaiah meaning "a woman of Isaiah". I shall be glad to have the Genealogy of Mirium, if you can, please. Ali Sina, Ibn Warraq and Silas are no authorities. They teach one to answer Islam. Also, let me have Mary's father's genealogy, if you can. Anyway, trust me it's Mary and her son who matter more to me.

BMZ Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Joined: 03 April 2006 Status: Offline Points: 1852	Post Options Post Reply Quote BMZ Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 May 2006 at 5:36am
	Now, we go one step further since I have a little bit more time on my hands. Time on my hand? Cannot be, but that is possible in English. Anyway, back to topic: Qur'aan calls Mary as "Ukhta Haroon". That does not mean Haroon's real sister. Qur'aan calls the wife of Pharoh or the sister of Pharoah as "Imra'ata Fir'aun" meaning a woman of Pharoah or a woman from the Pharoah's family. The wives of Noah and Lot are called "Imra'at-e-Nuh" and "Imra'ate-Lut." Qur'aan does not name any other women at all for God does not backbite or talk about women behind their backs. It does not shame any woman. One will not find the name of any woman. Aside from the topic, Mary and her son Jesus are mentioned many times more than the name of our dear Prophet (his name is mentioned only four times in the Qur'aan). Our dearest Maryam (Mary) IS the only woman honoured in Qur'aan by name. Both mother and son are known by their names. We know from Essaa bin Maaryam (Essabna Maryam meaning the son of Maryam) that Qur'an is talking about Jesus and his mother Mary. BR BMZ Edited by bmzsp

AbRah2006 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest Group Joined: 13 May 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 354	Post Options Post Reply Quote AbRah2006 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 May 2006 at 6:56am
	Moses peace be upon him predicted the corruption/tampering of the Law (Bible) after his death(Deuteronomy 31:25-29).The Book of Moses predicted that the Law (Bible) will get corrupted. The Book of Jeremiah which came approximately 826 years after did indeed confirm this corruption. The entire Bible is corrupted and unreliable and is mostly filled with man-made laws and corruption! "`How can you say, "We [the Jews] are wise, for we have the law of the LORD," when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?' (From the NIV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8)" The Revised Standard Version makes it even clearer: "How can you say, 'We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us'? But, behold, the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie. (From the RSV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8)" In either translation, we clearly see that the Jews had so much corrupted the Bible with their man-made cultural laws, that they had turned the Bible into a lie! Conclusion: (1) The Bible contains so many errrors and contradictions so it is not a reliable source. (2) God sends Quran to all mankind through His last messenger Muhammad to replace the unreliable Bible.
	God does not forbid you from showing kindness and dealing justly with those who have not fought you about religion and have not driven you out of your homes. God loves just dealers. (Quran, 60:8)

Alibaba Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest Group Joined: 19 April 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 134	Post Options Post Reply Quote Alibaba Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 May 2006 at 7:11am
	Abrah: Produce the archeological and textual evidence for what you claim - otherwise, admit the error in the Quran. bmz: And some people believe that Quaker-like people live on the moon. People will have faith in anything but the truth.

BMZ Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Joined: 03 April 2006 Status: Offline Points: 1852	Post Options Post Reply Quote BMZ Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 May 2006 at 8:46am
	Ali Baba, If that is the reasoning, would you consider acknowledging the Hindu Trinity? They too have three in a God-head, will you?

Alibaba Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest Group Joined: 19 April 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 134	Post Options Post Reply Quote Alibaba Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 May 2006 at 8:48am
	bmzp: you must make sense when you post, otherwise I cannot respond. Please clarify what you are saying.

BMZ Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Joined: 03 April 2006 Status: Offline Points: 1852	Post Options Post Reply Quote BMZ Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 May 2006 at 8:53am
	Ali Baba: "People will have faith in anything but the truth." Got it?