Nasakh - Sharia - Fiqh

Welcome Lamplighter,

Before someone explains to you, could you please let us know what those terms mean to you and precisely what would you like to know. Those are huge subjects and most of us may not have the time.

BMZ

Sharia is supposed to be the Law Allah gave, however I do not believe Allah would ask anyone to beat, stone, hang, torture, maim anyone it just does not make sense.

Jesus forbade people stoning anyone and said He who is without sin caste the first stone.  He implied we should forgive the sins of others that we be forgiven.

One has to understand the time the laws were created and in todays world stoning anyone one is not true justivce Education, Counseling and Consultation are.

When it comes to issues of cutting off a hand again in todays world true justice is Education, Counseling and Consultation that is why we need an Inter Faith Education, Counseling and Consultation Jihad to turn some out dated laws into true justice.

I have a beef with Sharia law because Allah also says it is best to forgive.

Yes Sister these same laws create some men that use and abuse women and children.  That is why Education, Counseling and Consultation is true justice and that is why we need an Education, Counseling and Consultation Jihad of which the most important first level is the jihad or struggle with self ie learning to submit to the will of Allah and be a good person.

I am glad you said there is a loop hole for change and progress.

I have seen many men all Muslims (I believe all Mankind are Muslims and indeed all creation is Islam) who because of ignorance use their power to oppress women and children.

If people are educated and taught how to deal with life situations maybe they might make better choices therefore training in commincations skills is key.

I have seen many incendents where innocent women are stoned because false witnesses were brought forward all because they refused to have sexual relations with a man outside of wed lock.

Rather than kill these women they should be educated and trained to deal with their emotions and so should the men.

In the west there is a great deal of sex and relationship education in the scholls now more than before and progress is being made.

It use to be if a young women got pregnant she was caste out of the family and made to give her child for adoption never to see or hear from them again.  That caused a great deal of harm.

It use to be that many women had illegal abortions and progress has been made there are still abortions but at least they are safe. 

Now a young woman can keep her baby and the community will help her while she gets her education.

It use to be there was no where for abused women or children to go and now there are womens shelters.

It use to be that there was no place for homeless people to go and now there are shelters and agencies trying to help them get off the street.

It use to be that Mentally ill people had to be locked up in a hospital and now they have their own apartments, jobs and families.

It use to be in many countries that baby girls were left to die or sacrificed to Gods.

It use to be that Mentally ill people were thought to have demons inside them and they were wiped, tortured, abused and beaten and in some cases chained to walls.

It use to be that people died of diabetes and other deases and now we can extend their life if not improve it.

The west has challenges too but progress is being made that is why we need an Education, Counseling and Consultation jihad.

There is hope Sister we are that hope.

Allah never created or breathed of His spirit into any that did not have value or purpose.

Thank you for sharing your views and information.

Anne Marie

This is the time of a great sorting out into groups, Surah 99, 1-8 to see what was wrong and what is right and learn new skills for coping with lifes many challenges as we learn to submit to the will of Allah.

Sister Fatima

You made some excellent points and it is very true one can find people with bad behavior everywhere.

Bad behavior is not a matter of culture or religion as it is found among the lowest educated and the highest however I believe there is hope.

I think it is sad that other remedies from wrong doing cannot be found that are more humain and effective that violent punishment.

Salam

Anne Marie