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Originally posted by herjihad herjihad wrote:

Bismillah,

Sister Amah,  When you say:

Relax sister Fatima!

It is your duty to enjoin good and forbid evil......so continue doing that.

It seems that you equate not wearing a scarf to evil.  Is that not what you meant?

no sister, i did not intend to say what you are thinking. you are taking it personally. i really didnt know!

Turning away from the sick and oppressed is evil.  Pornography is evil.  Beating your wife and children is evil. Murder is evil.  Being rude all the time when you could be patient and kind is evil.

yes all these are big evils! i agree. who wouldnt?

Sisters who wear modest clothing, don't pick up guys in bars, read Quran, care for their families are some of the behaviors that describe good people to me.  I don't see ANY evil in such people, but especially I don't see they are evil for not having a head cloth on.

thats between Allah and you!

I appreciate your quote indicating that we are not to tell each other we are going to hell or we may do so in the end.  Sisters aren't usually saying it so directly, but instead they are quoting verses unrelated to the scarf which say people are going to hellfire as response to my and other sisters comments that we don't intend to wear scarves especially in western countries where we know abuse and degradation will be heaped on us.

i do understand the problems many sisters face for  their hijab. iam one of them....

Thank you for trying to relate to what we are saying, Sister.  JazzakAllahKhayr.




enjoining good and forbidding evil is a duty put on us by Allah, do you agree or not? sister fatima was just stating the ruling on hijab for the sake of enjoining good (thats what i think), so i just encouraged her.

no offence was meant to you!! please sister, for allah's sake....believe me! if i stop praying my 5 times prayer, will you tell me to pray or will you think "its none of my business"? are you getting my point?

just because a woman is not in hijab does not mean i doubt her integrity. no way! i am no judge. but i will advise her to wear hijab purely for allahs sake, if it wasnt my duty to do that believe me, i would mind my own business.

i love you for the sake of allah, even if i do not agree with you on something, i will not say anything to hurt you. i have liked your previous posts, i do believe that you are a kind and forgiving woman, may allah reward you lots. please forgive me sister.

subhanakallahumma wa bi hamdika , nash hadu allah ilaha illa anta nastaghfiruka wa natoobu ilayya.....
Allah is Sufficient as a Walee (Protector) and Allah is Sufficient as a Naseer (Helper).
(Surah An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #45)
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Herjihad well said..

Since becoming a Moslem I am fascinated by the fact that this issue, more then others, pushes so many personal buttons, within myself and others.

Whether non-Moslems or Moslems.. how we appear to the world is a hot-button issue.

I was on another Moslem women's web site and this woman wrote a post making fun of all those women who were wearing some type of scarf but it was not 'perfect', would slide off etc.. I was new to Islam and left that site and never went back.  

I think if we would just stop this and do something to make the world a bit better we would be further along.

 
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O you who believe! Let not a group scoff at another group, it may be that the latter are better than the former; nor let (some) women scoff at other women, it may be that the latter are better than the former, nor defame one another, nor insult one another by nicknames. How bad is it, to insult ones brother after having Faith (i.e. to call your Muslim brother (a faithful believer) as: "O sinner", or "O wicked", etc.). And whosoever does not repent, then such are indeed Zalimoon (wrong-doers, etc.).  
(  سورة الحجرات  , Al-Hujraat, Chapter #49, Verse #11)
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Bismillah,

JazzakAllahKhayr for your  post, Sister Amah!
Al-Hamdulillah (From a Married Muslimah) La Howla Wa La Quwata Illa BiLLah - There is no Effort or Power except with Allah's Will.
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Bismillah irrahman irrahim

Assalamu alaikum

May Allah swt bless us all with His true guidance, ameen. felt really nice reading last few posts cos of the fact that law of Allah swt is held up high n alhamdulillah no one is hurt either, thats why i think it is so important to understand the ahadith which state that nasiha should be given with good manners. cos if u telling some1 right thing but in the process u hurt their feeling then they are neva going to come to the truth bcos of shortcoming of person who is giving nasiha.  it also shows that lack of communication causes alot of problem some times

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Originally posted by amah amah wrote:

O you who believe! Let not a group scoff at another group, it may be that the latter are better than the former; nor let (some) women scoff at other women, it may be that the latter are better than the former, nor defame one another, nor insult one another by nicknames. How bad is it, to insult ones brother after having Faith (i.e. to call your Muslim brother (a faithful believer) as: "O sinner", or "O wicked", etc.). And whosoever does not repent, then such are indeed Zalimoon (wrong-doers, etc.).  
(  ���� �������  , Al-Hujraat, Chapter #49, Verse #11)

Ameen, sister Amah, whether a woman chooses to wear the veil or not is between her and Allah (swt) alone. We should not judge one another! Jazak'Allah Khair!
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I think a muslim woman looks BEAUTIFUL in a hajib.I hate to say this,but I'm kinda a hajib cloth's horse!  I've found a great Islamic clothing site for women,and they have so many beautiful hajib's.I live currently in America,am a 'revert'.I've gotten my share of mean looks from non muslim's here,but I dont care what they think,I only care that I am doing right by Allah.My husband (who was raised muslim) never forced me to wear hajib.But I became convicted that wearing the hajib is the right thing to do. I dont care if non muslim's judge me for keeping covered.I dont mean to sound judgemental or anything,this is simply MY expeirence.
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