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Points: 595 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 March 2009 at 12:09am
Originally posted by Friendship Friendship wrote:

Assalamu alaikum.

Nazarene deciphered:
jesus was no jew . he was an isralite. there's a diffrence. he said the jews were also " lost"
Response: (1) Philologically No!. Jesus was a Jew because the name as testified by the OT and the holy Qur'an applied to the Children of Israel alive after the return of captivity. (11) Jesus was not a Jew as he was from the tribe of Levi. (111) Allah did not call Jesus a Jew but a Muslim bowing to the covenant of his forefathers, Abraham, Isaac, Ishamel and Jacob. (1v) Jesus was the first to preach the holy Qur'an.
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"JEW OT Words - yehuCdiC ~YDIwHYi, 3064~]

YDIwHYi yehuCdiC is derived patronymically from the term HDFwHYi yehuCdaMh (i.e., Judah) and is translated "Jew" or more precisely "man from, or inhabitant of Judah." The term occurs around eighty times, and is used only from the exilic period onward. Previously, the inhabitants of Judah were referred to generally as "Israelites" or "sons of Israel."

Mundane usage of the term in a narrative context is found, for example, in 2 Kgs. 16:6; 25:25; Neh. 1:2; Esth. 3:10; 4:3ff.; 8:1ff.; 9:1ff.; Jer. 32:12; 52:28ff. In the prophetic context of Zech. 8:23, it is recorded that people will be drawn to the faith of the Jewish people, and Gentiles will take hold of the robe of a Jew, wishing to accompany him in worship of Yahweh.

NT Words - Ioudaios ~ �Ioudai�oj, 2453GKNUM>~]

�Ioudai�oj Ioudaios refers to a Jew, a person belonging to the Jewish race. The term occurs around two hundred times.

Mundane usage in narrative description is found in Matt. 28:15; Mark 7:3; Luke 7:3; John 3:1. The magi in Matt. 2:2 refer to Jesus as "King of the Jews"; the same title is used in Jesus� trial before Pontius Pilate (cf. Matt. 27:11; Mark 15:2ff.; Luke 23:3; John 18:33). The crowd mocks Jesus with this title (Matt. 27:29); and a sign with this ascription is placed on the cross above Jesus� head (cf. Matt. 27:37; Mark 15:26; Luke 23:38; John 19:19ff.). During the earthly ministry of Jesus, Jewish people were often hostile towards him (cf. John 2:18; 5:16ff.; 6:41; 7:1; 10:31ff.; 19:7). John 4:9 mentions the Jews� hatred of Samaritans.

Jewish opposition to the missionary enterprise of the apostle Paul is frequently alluded to in the book of Acts (cf. Acts 9:23; 13:45; 14:19; 20:3; 21:27; 23:12; 25:7). The early Christians were likewise despised by the Jewish community on the whole (cf. Acts 14:2; 17:1). Ironically, the Jewish people were initially the sole targets, or recipients, of Paul�s gospel preaching (cf. Acts 11:19; 13:5; 17:7). According to Paul, genuine "Jewishness" requires the process of "heart circumcision" to take place - that is, renewal of one�s heart attitude to God as revealed in the person of Christ (cf. Rom. 2:29). Rom. 10:12; Gal. 3:28 make it clear that there is no distinction between Jew and Gentile believers in the sight of God, who accepts all who call upon him in genuine faith, Jew and Gentile alike."-Expository Dictionary of Bible Words Ed. by S. D. Renn

 
Yes Jesus was a Jew, when Jesus was a young child, the astrologers came, inquiring: "Where is the one born king of the Jews?" (Mtthew 2:1, 2) On Jesus� torture stake Pilate put the title "Jesus the Nazarene the King of the Jews."�John 19:19.  "The King of The Jews" has to be a Jew.


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Points: 2487 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 March 2009 at 12:52pm
Hi everyone,
based on what I read so far its seems clear:
 
1) that Jesus, according to the Bible did not bring a new religion or doctrine rather was bringing back people to follow what was already there with them in practice honestly and purely.
 
2) Trinity was never a principle of Jewish teachings nor any teachings ever known to mankind.
 
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Points: 573 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 March 2009 at 12:29am
Originally posted by Friendship Friendship wrote:

Assalamu alaikum.

Nazarene deciphered:
jesus was no jew . he was an isralite. there's a diffrence. he said the jews were also " lost"
Response: (1) Philologically No!. Jesus was a Jew because the name as testified by the OT and the holy Qur'an applied to the Children of Israel alive after the return of captivity. (11) Jesus was not a Jew as he was from the tribe of Levi. (111) Allah did not call Jesus a Jew but a Muslim bowing to the covenant of his forefathers, Abraham, Isaac, Ishamel and Jacob. (1v) Jesus was the first to preach the holy Qur'an.
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Where do you get your information from Jesus was from the tribe of Judah not Levi and what you want to assume that Curran was written in Jesus's time if he was the first to preach the quran, then what happened to first century Muslims
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