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UmmAminata View Drop Down
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 November 2006 at 11:22am

"no matured female moderator" present in the women�s section. This is insulting and goes against guidelines. -Peace Maker

 

Brother.. if you truly believe that this is insulting, I believe this website than is very  disturbing.

I hope to God this is a typo? I really do.

If the administrators at Islamicity believe that Muslim women requesting that a mature Muslim female be a moderator in the women's sections or on issues that concern women is insulting and a violation against the rules, than that is a very sad and pathetic state of affairs.

Unless your Gynecologist, Obestrician, Pediatrician, or psychologist, I don't understand how you believe you can even be a successful moderator in a women's section.

It's behaviours like this, that continue to show the world, that Islam truly is a woman hating religion which can't even allow a female to even moderate the area that has been specified for females? Where is the logic in this?

I did not make any false allegations against you.  I said "I feel" I never said " This is" etc. I stated how I feel. I have a right to feel any way I choose too, I'm sorry that you can't moderate away my human feelings or control them too.

And as for accusing me of pitting men against women, I have not done such a thing. Just becuase I believe in "telling the truth" and believe in personal accountability doesn't make me a man hating feminist.

If you or the administrators are asking me to ignore or disregard reality, you got a another thing comming.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 November 2006 at 12:30pm
UmmAminata wrote:

Whenever, any moderator makes an attempt to enforce guidelines or busy with handling those who consider themselves cyber missionaries, please stay away from those threads. - Peace Maker

Peace Maker, I can only assume this comment was aimed at me since I am the one who posted the books and links that you are talking about.

I feel that you are lying on me by this statement.  I have never said nor claimed to be a Cyber missionary.  Please find a post where I have stated this? Please point out to me where in any post I have claimed to be a cyber missionary?

You asked for references and I found what I knew of, based off personal experiences of reading and interacting with persons from those websites. Who are you to even imply other wise?

What American, Candanian, or European Islamic orgnaization is going to list Apostates and create a support group for them? Please educate me brother I'm waiting. All the years I've been on this earth, surely I can learn more?

Just becuase I am talking about issues I believe to be important to Muslim women that happens to call for the personal accountability of Muslim men because Allah appointed them as the protectors and maintainers of women?

And furthermore, why isn't there a matured female moderator for the women's section instead of a man? This is exactly what I'm talking about. How can a Muslim man speak for me? Until you give birth brother, I don't need you or any other man advising me on PostPartum depression which this thread was supposed to be about.

It is clear that you have personal problem with me, and now I have one with you, because I feel you are lying on me, and I feel you are trying to determine my intentions which only Allah knows.

Mrs. Dia

Assalamu Alaikum,

UmmAminata:

Here is the entire post by "peacemaker".

Angel:

You are a very senior user here. You have many good posts, but there is problem that I would like to describe to you once again that has existed since rami's period as far as I could see. Maybe you consider that the problem is not as serious to worry about. But, that is your opinion.

Whenever, any moderator makes an attempt to enforce guidelines or busy with handling those who consider themselves cyber missionaries, please stay away from those threads.

This is the last time I am telling you this.

There are many cyber missionaries here at the forum. You may have a look at them, just visit interfaith forum, and look posts over the last one year period alone.

Why will I have anything against you, Sister? Please don�t misunderstand me. Also that while commenting on me, you should have looked at my other posts to get an idea what I stand for on the whole.

Bottom line is that I didn�t say that you were cyber missionary. If you falsely claim that I am lying, you should consider that you are attacking me for no reason.

You created a thread, "visually impaired" in comment section in which you falsely charged me for couple of things ( such as I was harsh whereas I was polite, that I thought you were not real Muslim, whereas I never commented on your religion, that you were visually impaired and wanted me to be sensitive whereas I had no idea that you were visually impaired in the first place and I was only enforcing rules meant for everyone at the forum ) that I didn�t respond there so that the matter cools down. And I hope that you would take it in positive way if I don�t respond.

For your kind information, I have always fought for the rights of women.

As far as my moderation in women�s section is concerned, please contact admin about that, or post in comment section, elsewhere, please don�t use terms such as "no matured female moderator" present in the women�s section. This is insulting and goes against guidelines.

Again, if you have any concern, please post respectfully in the comment section.

Any sexist posts that would create clashes between "men" and "women" such as its all men�s faults or women�s faults etc would be deleted.

Yes, the thread has lost the direction.

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Assalamu Alaikum,

UmmAminata:

Please quote me in full and not in part.

Above is my post in full.

There are many female moderators here. You have already seen Sister fatima who moderates all sections including Women�s section. If you think, there is no "matured female moderator" or you think that I shouldn�t moderate in women�s section, I meant that contact admin or post in comment section, elsewhere you are not allowed to voice that concern as that will be insulting. Please comply with guidelines.

This thread shows how the matter has been dealt with: name calling, insult, personal attack without any evidence, absolute disregard of guidelines etc . These are the things why we are in the mess.

Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?
Qur'an 55:13
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