No more frivolous Fatwas

wa aleykum salam wr wb

The only authority in Islam is the four madhhabs

according to?

Islam has only 4 schools of thought, Hanafi, shafii, Maliki, Hanbali.

according to?

The shia have never been recognised as being a school of thought by sunni scholars

since when did the sunni scholars become the be all end all truthof Islam? seriously im wondering.

As for people issuing fatwas id say its bad enough when educated people do it. let alone people who arent. Imams who are handfed by the western governments fatwas, wouldnt make much of an impact on me. To be honest i would just ignore them, as i do with everybody elses frivolous fatwas. I saw a fatwa that made it illegal to prepare food in an microwaveoven where there had been prepared swine, so it was haram. Im pretty sure God tells us that he is the one making things un and lawfull, and i havent seen an oven mentioned anywhere in Quran. what gives? are there hadith about microwave ovens?, or are the scholars as usual playing mightyer than God, making this lawfull and that unlawfull?






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rami wrote: Bi ismillahir rahmanir raheem assalamu alaikum According to the consensus of companions and scholars from the begining of islam until now, with a chain of authority leading back to the prophet himself and on the same level of integrity as the preservation of the Quran since the authority for both were preseved and passed on by the same people. Doubt the Authority of one and you doubt the Authority of the Quran.

wa aleykum salam wr wb

people cannot even agree to the "chain" so what im reading is. Doubt the authority of a human being and you dont belive in the authority of God. wtf?! Bor, thats not right.

This is not "according to", this is a reality there are four schools of thought in exisance today.

No there are several more, but as usual other people have a problem with them. However, i dont need any persons accept, Gods will do fine.

The prophet taught the companions, the companions taught the successors, they taught the generation that came after them and they taught the generation that came after and so on and so on and so on. You seem to lack a sence of history and time in your argumentation Noah.

No not at all, i just dont see where God promise he will reserve this chain of command. He promised to preserve The Quran, and that i trust fully. no doubt, no nothing. God said it, so its true. Dont balme me for being sceptic about a system that to mee lokos very much like the catholic church. And im pretty sure that was not Gods intention ever. But as it is a matter of oppinion from the both of us, and as oppinion cant be proven wrong. all i can say is "to you yours, to me mine" and then i hope there can still be respect amongst us :)

if your food becomes contaminated by pig meat you can not eat it, simple basic understanding based on a hadith. If somehow this fatwa has proven that your food becomes contaminated by puting it in a microwave that was used to cook pork then this is sufficient ground to make using a microwave in such instances Haram as your food would be contaminated by the pig meat. Just becouse you lack the basic knowledge to understand an issue does not mean the issue is rediculous. Those people who understand what is being said and on what ground the argument is being made are in a better position to judge the truth of the matter than a person who says this is rediculous becouse i dont understand it at all.

 

I agree, just because i dont understand something doesnt mean its not right. Ofcourse. There many things that i dont know, you could write librarys full of things that i dont know. However, i do know that nothing survives in a microwave oven due to the nature of the way it works. You could cook sh*t (sorry) in it, and then your food afterwards, and nothing would happen, because nothing survive being microwaved. So in this case its the "scholar" who are completely oblivious to FACTS, and just follow his intution rather than using reasoning and study. The point however is not our brother shcholar but the fact that there are way to many fatwas comming out based on conjecture, and illinformed thinking. I do not put blame on them, as i know they are doing it from a good, well meaning heart. Im just rather sceptical about it, and has developed a habbit of looking into the fatwas presented myself, before i accept a ruling.

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