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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ProudSlave Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 February 2015 at 10:10pm
Caring Heart -

You mentioned "Democracy"; "Freedom"; and "America" (U.S. I assume, not South or Central).

You do realize that the United States is NOT A Democracy, right? It is a Constitutional Republic. A Democracy does NOT result in freedom, it results in mob rule. As soon as any particular group holds a majority, their will can be legally imposed on the minority. This is why the Constitution of our Republic contains what are referred as "negative rights" (a list of things that can NOT be done to the citizenry by the government, even if the majority thinks it is ok)

Just wanted to clear that up :-)
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Originally posted by ProudSlave ProudSlave wrote:

Caring Heart -

You mentioned "Democracy"; "Freedom"; and "America" (U.S. I assume, not South or Central).

You do realize that the United States is NOT A Democracy, right? It is a Constitutional Republic. A Democracy does NOT result in freedom, it results in mob rule. As soon as any particular group holds a majority, their will can be legally imposed on the minority. This is why the Constitution of our Republic contains what are referred as "negative rights" (a list of things that can NOT be done to the citizenry by the government, even if the majority thinks it is ok)

Just wanted to clear that up :-)


Pretty much right: an unfettered democracy is mob rule with extra paperwork.
The quality of a democracy (or a constitutional republic with (some) democratic voting process) depends on the degree to which the electorate id educated and informed.
It also operates with the legal fiction that for this purpose all opinions are equally valid.
Which they are not, really.

"Democracy" is not a miracle word of liberty or perfection.

Having said that, compared to most if not all the other options going around, it's hardly worse.
For one thing it offers a route to changing authority and government without violence and bloodshed.

The compatibility between Islam and democratic processes is low to minimal, as it is anathema that the public should have a deciding vote for something which might be unIslamic.




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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote airmano Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 February 2015 at 8:09am
I'd pretty much agree on what you (Emettman) wrote on democracy, i.e. the sentence
Quote For one thing it offers a route to changing authority and government without violence and bloodshed.
I think that power tends to corrupt the people in power in the long run, independent of the political colour associated.
Democracy makes sure that those that are in power know that their successors may/will ask them to account for what they did (not) do and that there will be a (unforeseeable) successor in the first place.

Here is a rather detailed study on the subject Happiness & Democracy (Do a "find" on "democracy" in this article)

I see it pretty much as Winston Churchill did: Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.


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Edited by airmano - 24 February 2015 at 8:26am
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