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Becoming muslim did not liberate me at all. In fact I was far more oppressed than I had been before.... perhaps because I married a Pakistani man.
It amazes me that SO many muslims that migrate to the UK are SO anti the government, the people, and the culture that they bother to come here in the first place.
Given a choice of my own culture/society or a mish mash of asian/muslim culture in the UK I know which I prefer.
There are far too many people condemning the western world. People in the UK do NOT want to change to please others. It is perfectly fine for anyone to come here and practise their beliefs..but allow others already here to have the freedom to do the same.
There is freedom of speech for all..as depicted in the above picture...This is a democracy for all.

The comment above re: Dr Affia Siddiqui. It is indeed appalling that she was/is treated this way..but what about all the Pakistani people back home that sodomise grandmothers? That kidnap innocent children for a randsom and then murder them when the money doesnt come? Shall I go on? OK then..the corrupt army and police force..illegal practises to opbtain false documents/passports/visa. Neighbour oppressing neighbour.   So does having a difficult life justify these bad ways? No, not at all. Find fault with your own people before judging this culture so harshly. You want a free NHS that you don't get at home..so accept it is not a perfect system.
People come here for economic reasons, fair enough, but DON'T keep slapping us in the face if you don't get all the benefits you want. Contribute more to society and then deserve what you are given. NOthing is free in life.
I have met hundreds of asian people that rob our society in many, many ways.   
So PLEASE don't try to remove the speck from someone's eye when you have a plank in your own.

Talk about other people being narrow minded..huh! I have seen far more this past six years that has given me a good perspective of the human race. Thankfully I am in a far better place than before. I have God to thank for that, not human beings.

Don't get me wrong..I love many things asian. THousands of decent English people are abused and used everyday by Pakistani's in the UK and their extended families back home. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

So, let me speak...I am allowed to..it's a free country.

If you don;t like it then don't give it out also.

The 95,000 suing over the caroon will be given a fair right to be heard, but I cannot see for one minute they will succeed. TBH the picture above is shocking. These people bring disgrace on Islam. Most are unemployed men who do not try to look for work..yet spend their time protesting like this. Odd then that the white English are not permitted such favours and have their benefits stopped. Shame on the likes of those in the above photo.

I will now come off my soap box.

I dont; care what you think of me. I know far more than what I tell here.

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Originally posted by martha martha wrote:


The 95,000 suing over the caroon will be given a fair right to be heard, but I cannot see for one minute they will succeed.
 

Just libel tourism run-a-muck.

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Originally posted by abuayisha abuayisha wrote:

Originally posted by martha martha wrote:

The 95,000 suing over the caroon will be given a fair right to be heard, but I cannot see for one minute they will succeed.



<P =Msonormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold">Just libel tourism run-a-muck.</SPAN>



Do you think they should succeed brother?
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Originally posted by abuayisha abuayisha wrote:

Originally posted by martha martha wrote:


The 95,000 suing over the caroon will be given a fair right to be heard, but I cannot see for one minute they will succeed.
 

Just libel tourism run-a-muck.

That doesn't make sense. Libel is not a legal precept that applies to cartoons or caricatures as in the MoToons case. The was no libel committed, hence no crime.
 
You are still free to go on fiery rampages and murder people who you think may have offended your tender sensibilities but you will also find that, that really is a crime; one you really will be prosecuted for.
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Martha,

In a sense I agree with you about preferring "our culture" but you seem so ANGRY that the other people - Muslim from Asia could not relate to you, nor you to them. I don't relate to many people from other cultures but I don't get mad at this. I actually have alot of compassion for all of us.

And you have to admit, there are PLENTY of "native" British folks on the dole. Plenty who cheat the government. Plenty who don't really work to their great capability.

Your ex was a cheater and a liar. You can say it was because he was a Muslin or Pakistani etc etc. No he was a bad person. You chose poorly. I watch court cases here in the states. Happens to thousands of women. Poor judgement.  They had poor judgement and there were bad people.

Scanners: And keep in mind that say Heathrow is a major nub airport. Does not mean you are a British citizen. What is so hard to create alternatives for those who  don't want a scanner? The women I knew in Pakistan were SO private. They would be embarrassed to go through some body scanner. There is nothing that prohibits them from giving people who ask for alternatives. and just cause people don't want people to see their private parts does not mean anything then that.
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Hayfa,
You should know, of all people, that I actually do have a lot of compassion for ALL people. And I would hardly say I am angry. I can relate well to asians and they to me..obviously not all of them.
My ex was one that used many people...and the majority act in the same way, unfortunately. But I would blame this government for being too soft in many ways. The US don;t let non-professionals into the US, we do. That being said, I met some wonderful asian people that I could trust with my life..and I was more than happy to live in Pakistan and help the orphaned children especially. Weird that most from there don;t like to help their own and actually found my good intentions amusing. So, it happens. It's when people don't care and trample over others that upsets me.

So, there are plenty of British folks on the dole. NOt quite sure what that proves. Though tbh, if they are also liars and cheats I wouldn't and don't think much of them either! BUt this is not the problem, is it. People resent those that cause trouble and do little or nothing to contribute to society. This is not a British grumble..plenty of asian muslims say the same about the lazy muslims.
MOst people, at some time in life, choose a friend or spouse poorly. In hindsight I chose badly. At the time I was naive, that's all. Haven't you also done the same at some point? Sure, we all do.

Scanners: I am certain that alternatives are being considered. British people are basically private people too, but if there is a threat, and most believe there is a threat to security, then others should understand that.
Images should be immediately erased, and those operating the scanners are not even in the same room as the person being scanned. (BUt like most things in life there will no doubt be someone who wishes to abuse the system)
People need to be sensible and look at all the facts, and then make good judgements.

Good and bad everywhere. This is not about me being mad with asian muslims, I am not so childish. But as it is the asian muslims that are griping about the scanners then it just fits into the topic.

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Peace!
 
What a waste of time and energy!!!!!The so called muslims need to start doing something more productive now.I wonder what they seek to achieve through this??Muhammadans who check their volumes of history books before doing literally each and everything in their lives seems to have forgotten to check them in this instance.Arent they thinking what the Prophet wouldve done in such a situation???Arent they checking their books to find out how the Prophet's responses were when he was ridiculed and mocked??Did he order his companions to go on a rampage when the disbelievers mocked or insulted him ???!!Where is the Sunna of the Prophet that u follow????!!Does these cartoons prevent you in anyway from practicing your faith??What did u achieve by having ur own brothers killed in these violent protests???Do u think that they will ever stop???! 
 
 
Well.. know my brothers and sisters.THEY WILL NEVER STOP.!!Listen to what Allah says in the holy Quran.Disregard them.They seek to put out God's light with their mouths and GOD insists on perfecting his light.THEY WILL NEVER SUCCEED.Dont let your love and respect for the Prophet blind you.Satan is using it as a bait to trap you in the disaster called idol worship.And yes many have fallen in this trap.Allah through such incidents is showing you that this madness has to stop.Follow and uphold Allah's revelations and set the example.The same example set by the final Prophet,The Prophet Muhammad.
 

[18:57] Who are more evil than those who are reminded of their Lord's proofs, then disregard them, without realizing what they are doing. Consequently, we place shields on their hearts to prevent them from understanding it (the Quran), and deafness in their ears. Thus, no matter what you do to guide them, they can never ever be guided.

[32:30] Therefore, disregard them and wait, they too are waiting.

[37:174] So disregard them for awhile.

[37:178] Disregard them for awhile.

[43:89] You shall disregard them and say, "Peace;" they will surely find out.

[51:54] You may disregard them; you cannot be blamed.

[52:45] Disregard them until they meet the day in which they are struck.

[73:10] And remain steadfast in the face of their utterances, and disregard them in a nice manner.

[9:32] They want to put out GOD's light with their mouths, but GOD insists upon perfecting His light, in spite of the disbelievers.

[61:8] They wish to put out GOD's light with their mouths. But GOD insists upon perfecting His light, in spite of the disbelievers.

[5:58] When you call to the Contact Prayers (Salat), they mock and ridicule it. This is because they are people who do not understand.

 
Peace! 
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