Ishmael & Ishaq

Well from the top of my head i can say that both Ismail (AS) and Ishaq (AS) are brothers. They share the same father Ibrahim (AS) but they had different mothers.

The children of israel (jews) came from Ishaq. Allah promised them the land (holy land) as long as they were believers.

Thats all i know :P

Someone pls correct me if im wrong :)

Hi David,

Yes, Ishmael is written off. Upto that period, it was either the boy from the slave woman or the boy from the free woman.

What surprises me is the theme of the second son receiving the blessing occured to the twins of Issac and Rebeka. Specially after Jacob gave a bowl of red bean soup to his starving brother on condition that he gave up his birth right to let him be the First born of Issac. Remember that Essau came out first, followed by Jacob who was clinging onto Essau's heels.

What is your view about this, David?

BMZ

DC, you are wrong when you say, "Ishmael is never referred to by name
after the binding of Isaac (Gen 22). For in Genesis 25 we read:

Genesis 25:9
His sons Isaac and Ishmael buried him in the cave of
Machpelah near Mamre, in the field of Ephron son of Zohar the Hittite

Ishmael would in no way have buried his father were he not in Good
Standing w/ Abraham, fully Abraham's recognized son and heir. R. E.
Friedman says as much in his Torah Commentary, that no animosity
is implied between the 2 brothers.

Entering the Documentary Hypothesis into the fray, these words are P. P
was written (down) under Hezekiah c. 700 BCE. Thus, even after the fall
of the Northern Kingdom, there was still no animosity between Ishmael
and Isaac. Any dischord was introduced into the narrative after Hezekiah.

The reason the OT focuses on Isaac is b/c it was the history of Israel, not
Arabia. But, as indicated by P in isolation, in the time of Hezekiah,
the story basically introduced Ishmael, had him receive the covenant of
circumcision (Gen 17) and then he essentially lives happily ever after, at
which point we return to the proto-Israelites. There is no animosity, just
understandable selective focus. Note that P is the best preserved OT
"Gospel", which is why Ezra, as a Priest (P), used P as his "chassis" for his
Redaction (R) c. 450 BCE.